My dealings with MikeyMoto

[happycrappy]

Just some interesting information I found on the MTO website: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/vehicles/vehicle-branding-program.shtml



As above, it would seem to me that the duty to report the damage fell on Murchie when it was damaged under his ownership. If he was truly concerned about the motorcycle later being sold without the damage being disclosed, then he should have disclosed the damage to the MTO.

Since he did not report this damage to the MTO, one can then presume that he does not care if subsequent owners are aware of this bike's history. If that is the case, then what is this thread about? Murchie, you claim it is all about preventing a bike being sold without the history disclosed; so why, then, didn't you report the damage?[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

Not totally sure the OP would have to make that declaration, would be nice to get that clarified. It seems plausible for the OP to brand it if it was being sold as a running, presumed to be re used vehicle, but selling to a shop for parts, after they have inspected it, pretty much implies that it will be parted out and not re licensed. I'm quite certain that if it was dropped off at a wrecker the same implication would apply, and they are the ones who would retain the title anyway.
Incidentally, and no I don't have a horse in this race, but based on the curb-siding laws in addition to the ones quoted above, I would seriously be worried about my OMVIC compliance if I were this shop. Technically, he would have been required to transfer the ownership to his shop before re-selling (tax laws, UVIP history), in addition to the declaration of a frame swap. But take all that with a grain of salt; I have no indication that this is even the same bike other than what the OP has posted, nor do I want to point a finger at this shop without full facts. Merely observations here.

 

[Murchie]

You tell the MTO what your mechanic told you -- that it has irrepairable damage to the frame and needs to be branded.

I know why you didn't do that though... because selling a damaged bike with a clear title is worth more than a bike without, despite it being quite clear on the MTO website that the onus was on you to report the damage to the MTO if it was not reported by the insurance company.

That simple? Just tell them?

Btw whos mechanic said the frame is irreparable? Dont put words in my mouth..stay on topic.

 

[Supernam]

This is not personal. I guarantee you that.

MikeyMoto offers a service to the public. If he can be this dishonest then the public needs to be made aware. Simple.

How can you say this is not personal when you typed "you messed with the wrong dude".

I am glad you posted this thread as there was confirmation from another poster who isn't even on your side, that there lacked honesty when selling the bike.

 

[dasilvasgtr]

At this point OP I'd probably just stop talking before you end up with a failing to stay at the scene. Regardless if someone cut you off!!! If you only have liability insurance you would be entitled to compensation if you could prove what happened. But you didn't and left without informing police. It's wrong however I understand, it's the rest that you keep clinging to that's the problem don't slander people after what YOU thought was a good deal for your damaged bike.

Not it sure if that's actually what happened and at this point nor do I care. Seems like too many stories to just to INFORM the public.

Cheers this his was fun I may come here more often now. Good practice for court.

 

[dasilvasgtr]

Lets bump this up....TTT

Alterior motives!!!!

proven beyond a reasonable doubt!!! Just because you say the sky is red doesn't mean it is lol.

 

[hdsomeday]

I have to say, after all this, that I personally wouldn't deal with either of them now. jmo

 

[dasilvasgtr]

Lol

What a tool.

It was reported to police. Don't assume ****. Oh wait, you MikeyMoto's friend. His rubbing off on you man.

You clearly have no knowledge on insurance claims.

How is insurance supposed to cover me if the driver failed to stay at the scene? The other party's insurance supposed tonfixnmy bike when theres no one to go after?

Where you going? We just getting started.

Lets keep this thread to the top. The community needs to be aware.

What at a tool is correct. The only assuming baffoon is you OP no one rubbing me lol
except you and it's the wrong way. Unfortunately I am the type that will get involved usually only when someone is being a idiot which imo you've done. Only reason you wanna keep it at the top victim is because you are the personality that will always think their right.

Keep eps the rubber side down and stay away from parking lots so you don't scratch your bike

 

[caboose56]

Has anyone found the the text in the ad where it states that the bike has never been dropped or down?

I keep looking but it hasn't shown up yet.


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[unL33T]

At this point OP I'd probably just stop talking before you end up with a failing to stay at the scene. Regardless if someone cut you off!!! If you only have liability insurance you would be entitled to compensation if you could prove what happened. But you didn't and left without informing police. It's wrong however I understand, it's the rest that you keep clinging to that's the problem don't slander people after what YOU thought was a good deal for your damaged bike.

Not it sure if that's actually what happened and at this point nor do I care. Seems like too many stories to just to INFORM the public.

Cheers this his was fun I may come here more often now. Good practice for court.

Sorry, you're incorrect.

 

[inreb]

Has anyone found the the text in the ad where it states that the bike has never been dropped or down?

I keep looking but it hasn't shown up yet.


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Kinda curious why you're hung up on this. An extensively repaired bike is a deal breaker for a lot of people spending hard earned dosh. At a minimum, to save time and bother, it should be mentioned up front. It's an important characteristic of that bike.

 

[mr.walczak]

Kinda curious why you're hung up on this. An extensively repaired bike is a deal breaker for a lot of people spending hard earned dosh. At a minimum, to save time and bother, it should be mentioned up front. It's an important characteristic of that bike.

A lot of sketchy people on this forum that I would be hesitant to buy bikes from geez. Lying by omission is still lying in my books .. I'd be ****** if I bought a bike under the assumption it was never down either by the seller telling me so or failing to tell me so, then later find out it was near write off. At a price point of over 8 grand I'd be pretty butt hurt as well.

 

[unL33T]

Kinda curious why you're hung up on this. An extensively repaired bike is a deal breaker for a lot of people spending hard earned dosh. At a minimum, to save time and bother, it should be mentioned up front. It's an important characteristic of that bike.

I agree. If your bike has been down you should say so in the ad. Even if it's obviously got parts from other years not everyone is an expert on every year of every model of bike. My last bike was down but all parts were replaced with brand new OEM and you couldn't tell but I still put it in the ad. Sold a car with an engine problem that only crops up once every 2 weeks so any test driver would never notice it. Put it in the ad. Sold another car that would never pass safety. Put that in the ad (guy I bought it from did not).

 

[dasilvasgtr]

Sorry, you're incorrect.

Thank you

 

[toyopl]

As a new rider I would like to know whether a bike was down or not, knowing that it was almost a write off would definitely turn me off, and that's why he probably didn't post it in the add.
I hate Kijiji adds when people want to lure you in, don't mention details and you have to ask questions to know what you're buying.
When I would buy this bike and would later found out it had damage to it, would the seller tell me "well you didn't ask" ? How is that any fair ?
It's not like I'm gonna believe that he would let me know right away that the bike had big damage to it, but I'll give him benefit of the doubt since I don't know the dude.

 

[Schneller]

There's a difference between what is said in the ad and what is said in the face to face. Do we know how much was disclosed? No, we only know what some other guy told us what was said/not said. We don't know nothing.

 

[Teal]

IMO when buying/selling a used vehicle it is the responsibility of the buyer to ask questions and the responsibility of the seller to answer truthfully.

 

[hotshotmikeyboy]

Im not one to go back and forth with games but this had to be said.


the fact of the matter are the people that came and looked at the bike and purchased the bike were informed not just verbally but with pictures of the bike. Like previously communicated in the previous responses.


Nothing on the bike was repaired but rather replaced with OEM honda parts. even parts that weren't damaged due to the accident were replaced like the wheels and rotors. The wheels were scratched up and spray bombed yellow so i replaced them. the tire size was inncorrect on the bike it had a 180- rear tire on it so the tires were replaced as well. body work was not painted its all new orig honda body work.


Murchie you anger towards me is not because im misleading anyone, its because you did not make a profit on the bike like originally intended when the bike was dropped and you wanted to fix it and sell it and get something else. I dont see any post about the helmet you sold and posted on gtam after you crashed your bike, and had no bike, and decided you were going to sell off your helmet


http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?191256-Suomy-Helmet&p=2318097#post2318097


so stop trying to pretend you are a martyr here, and stop being a hypocrite




you seemed like a nice guy in a crappy situation so i was simply trying to help you out.....even when you wanted to strip down your bike of all the aftermarket parts, and put back the stock parts, i admit i wanted to help you out and thats why you have the new exhaust you pulled off of it before the wholesaler came.




if this was just about the bike being sold and you felt like i was misleading.....your rudeness towards the other members on the forum about their opinions would be non existent .


You seem to be an extremely angry jealous person that holds grudges and that's a shame most bikers have the total opposite demeanor .....then again this is my opinion and being on a public forum this should be just fine.

 

[Benny!]

Where is it written in the ad that the bike wasn't crashed?


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For the $8000 listing price it sure ad hell better not be dropped.

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[Benny!]

This whole thing sounds like someone trying to recoup costs/make a profit and hope no one asks questions when they look at the bike. Just because it isn't written in the ad that it wasn't dropped doesn't mean it wasn't. It's just a convenient way of not having to disclose stuff. I'm sure it's been done before by him as well as many others and will most likely happen again. OP I know you don't care about the bike but just they fact that Mikey may be not disclosing the true history of the bike (if indeed true is very sketchy and would expect better of someone apparently that is trusted by fellow bikers) but don't waste time or money going further with it. It's not worth it. This thread existing helps people choose who they want to believe and really that's all you can do. Trust me when I say its not worth suing for stuff. Been there done that.

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[Murchie]

Im not one to go back and forth with games but this had to be said.


the fact of the matter are the people that came and looked at the bike and purchased the bike were informed not just verbally but with pictures of the bike. Like previously communicated in the previous responses.


Nothing on the bike was repaired but rather replaced with OEM honda parts. even parts that weren't damaged due to the accident were replaced like the wheels and rotors. The wheels were scratched up and spray bombed yellow so i replaced them. the tire size was inncorrect on the bike it had a 180- rear tire on it so the tires were replaced as well. body work was not painted its all new orig honda body work.


Murchie you anger towards me is not because im misleading anyone, its because you did not make a profit on the bike like originally intended when the bike was dropped and you wanted to fix it and sell it and get something else. I dont see any post about the helmet you sold and posted on gtam after you crashed your bike, and had no bike, and decided you were going to sell off your helmet


http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?191256-Suomy-Helmet&p=2318097#post2318097


so stop trying to pretend you are a martyr here, and stop being a hypocrite




you seemed like a nice guy in a crappy situation so i was simply trying to help you out.....even when you wanted to strip down your bike of all the aftermarket parts, and put back the stock parts, i admit i wanted to help you out and thats why you have the new exhaust you pulled off of it before the wholesaler came.




if this was just about the bike being sold and you felt like i was misleading.....your rudeness towards the other members on the forum about their opinions would be non existent .


You seem to be an extremely angry jealous person that holds grudges and that's a shame most bikers have the total opposite demeanor .....then again this is my opinion and being on a public forum this should be just fine.

Mikey Mikey - glad you responded.

So these people were informed? Informed that the bike was backed into in a parking lot. That's what one of the members said here. You told him that.

That screenshot i took, saved the day. You got caught and now you looking for excuses.

Again i will reiterate, how the bike was repaired has nothing to do with this post. I signed over the ownership and it ended there.

How do i expect to make a profit from something that costs $4k to fix? Sounds ridiculous to me. Don't look for an escape route now. Excuses excuses..

Yes, let's talk about this helmet. If you recall, you flushed the brake fluid on my brothers bike - yellow R6. That's his helmet, we use one account. You disappoint me, MikeyMoto.

My rudeness towards the other members? Oh, you talking about your buddies? I don't recall being rude. Do you recall them being rude to me? Why has this topic shifted now?

Yes you're entitled to an opinion. This is not a grudge match, just an FYI to the community to be on the look out when dealing with such businesses. Not only you, but others too.

You seemed like a nice guy too, until the ad you put up. You were very quick to take it down, but i was quicker screenshot it. And now everyone knows.