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MotoGP 2015
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lol. I can't believe I've been able do it so long, so who knows what the future holds. Just think, with a subscription you never have to worry about spoilers! Worth the price of admission right there
lator-illa
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To be honest, buying the pass is more than worth the price of admission.
SweetOnion
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Wow... Have not had time yet to watch, but it seems the love affair is over for good between Rossi and Marquez. Looks like he is lining Marquez up to be the next hated one. Too bad, because I was hoping to migrate over after VR retires. Check out the article on MotoGp.com, Rossi is saying Marquez is trying to help Lorenzo to win the championship
I didn't get that MM was holding anyone back during the race. Will have to rewatch it, which isn't going to be such a terrible task to do.
He said it during the interview, he seems to think that (after watching the race) MM had a lot more on the gas that he demonstrated and him and Iannone feel he was playing with the two of them in order to help JL. MM said he was trying to conserve tires and was amazed at his last lap, he also said if he wanted to hel JL he would not have passed him on the last lap. I think VR is out of line with that comment and I am not sure if he was just trying to be funny
AI was holding Rossi back because he wasn't as fast in the corners but just blew past them in the straight. Pedrosa said he couldn't get enough weight onto the back wheel to keep it from spinning out when he hit the gas on the straight.
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That's it! Build a wall between the Yamaha and Honda garage! Oh waitaminnit...
oh mama.....
After the Malaysian GP Pre-Event Press Conference Rossi spoke to the Italian media about his comments on Marquez helping out Lorenzo.
Click here to watch Rossi’s comments on Marquez from the Press Conference, and below is what he said to the assembled Italian media afterwards:
Do you think that Marquez helped out Lorenzo at Phillip Island?
“It is indeed true that Marquez did not play with both of us: he only played with me! It is important that he knows that I know! Now let's see what happens, but I am quite concerned because to have to fight with Lorenzo is one thing, but if you have to beat Marquez as well, everything becomes much more difficult, to be honest - the case is that he isn’t playing fair (something that a professional rider has to do in these situations). Especially because Marquez could be very competitive in the last two races.”
“For me it was a big disappointment, I was upset, it was from a few races ago that I knew, but I did not expect him to do something so obvious. I feel disappointment, regret and worry, because surely he will try to do it here and also in Valencia.”
So why did he eventually also overtake Lorenzo?
“In the race I noticed it, but I did not understand; Marquez was a step above everyone, but instead of trying to try to battle Lorenzo, he stayed with me to fight with Iannone and others. He knew that I was losing out to the Ducati on the straight. And so every time I tried to pass him, he re-overtook me (super-aggressive, but thats the way it is). But then he slowed to create a gap to Jorge. His bad luck was that on Sunday Jorge was not so strong, because otherwise it would have been over already. Instead, he always kept Jorge in check, knowing that he could catch him within 3 laps, and then tried to slow me and Iannone, perhaps trying to put other riders between me and Lorenzo. And in the end, that's what he did. It is clearly quite worrying, but it doesn't worry me too much”
Why do you think he did this?
“Because he would prefer Lorenzo to win. He is angry at me for a personal matter. Although he never said it, he thinks that in Argentina I made him crash; and then at Assen he is still thinking about the last chicane, in his head he feels he should have won that race. Since then he has been angry and thinking like a child: I do not win, but you do not win either. At this point, the lesser evil is for him is for Lorenzo to win.”
Is it something that motivates you or makes you angry?
"Let's see. Because if he's faster yet slows down to get involved in the battles further back, it could become difficult. Because he has nothing to lose, but I do. I have to be wary. I'm sorry and I'm quite angry. I did not expect that Marquez was an obstacle for this Championship, I thought I was only fighting against Jorge, as it should be.”
Because he used to idolise you, did you think this wouldn't happen?
"Watch out, here we must make a clarification: did he really idolise me? Did he really have my poster at home? I'm not so sure. I'd like to go back in time and see. It will also be a question of character, he is competing with me: I want to win as many World Championships as I can. If I win another title, then he knows that he will have to win one more to overtake me. If instead Jorge wins, then they have more or less the same.”
Was it better with Biaggi, because he at least made his feelings clear?
"It's true you are right. In the long run, I prefer more his behaviour. We were obnoxious to each other, but at least it was clear and honest. But I do not have his phone number.”
Did this all begin in Laguna Seca?
“There have been lots of moments, at Laguna Seca he wanted to do what I had done to Stoner five years before, when he could easily have passed three corners later. It was the first signal. And I said so, but I did not want to believe it. To think evil, it takes forever.”
Wanting to make a literary comparison, since we are in Malaysia, do you feel like Sandokan fighting Yanez?
"I would not know. I do not think that there is this difference between me and Lorenzo. I think we're both brave, each in his own way, and also a bit cunning.
After the Malaysian GP Pre-Event Press Conference Rossi spoke to the Italian media about his comments on Marquez helping out Lorenzo.
Click here to watch Rossi’s comments on Marquez from the Press Conference, and below is what he said to the assembled Italian media afterwards:
Do you think that Marquez helped out Lorenzo at Phillip Island?
“It is indeed true that Marquez did not play with both of us: he only played with me! It is important that he knows that I know! Now let's see what happens, but I am quite concerned because to have to fight with Lorenzo is one thing, but if you have to beat Marquez as well, everything becomes much more difficult, to be honest - the case is that he isn’t playing fair (something that a professional rider has to do in these situations). Especially because Marquez could be very competitive in the last two races.”
“For me it was a big disappointment, I was upset, it was from a few races ago that I knew, but I did not expect him to do something so obvious. I feel disappointment, regret and worry, because surely he will try to do it here and also in Valencia.”
So why did he eventually also overtake Lorenzo?
“In the race I noticed it, but I did not understand; Marquez was a step above everyone, but instead of trying to try to battle Lorenzo, he stayed with me to fight with Iannone and others. He knew that I was losing out to the Ducati on the straight. And so every time I tried to pass him, he re-overtook me (super-aggressive, but thats the way it is). But then he slowed to create a gap to Jorge. His bad luck was that on Sunday Jorge was not so strong, because otherwise it would have been over already. Instead, he always kept Jorge in check, knowing that he could catch him within 3 laps, and then tried to slow me and Iannone, perhaps trying to put other riders between me and Lorenzo. And in the end, that's what he did. It is clearly quite worrying, but it doesn't worry me too much”
Why do you think he did this?
“Because he would prefer Lorenzo to win. He is angry at me for a personal matter. Although he never said it, he thinks that in Argentina I made him crash; and then at Assen he is still thinking about the last chicane, in his head he feels he should have won that race. Since then he has been angry and thinking like a child: I do not win, but you do not win either. At this point, the lesser evil is for him is for Lorenzo to win.”
Is it something that motivates you or makes you angry?
"Let's see. Because if he's faster yet slows down to get involved in the battles further back, it could become difficult. Because he has nothing to lose, but I do. I have to be wary. I'm sorry and I'm quite angry. I did not expect that Marquez was an obstacle for this Championship, I thought I was only fighting against Jorge, as it should be.”
Because he used to idolise you, did you think this wouldn't happen?
"Watch out, here we must make a clarification: did he really idolise me? Did he really have my poster at home? I'm not so sure. I'd like to go back in time and see. It will also be a question of character, he is competing with me: I want to win as many World Championships as I can. If I win another title, then he knows that he will have to win one more to overtake me. If instead Jorge wins, then they have more or less the same.”
Was it better with Biaggi, because he at least made his feelings clear?
"It's true you are right. In the long run, I prefer more his behaviour. We were obnoxious to each other, but at least it was clear and honest. But I do not have his phone number.”
Did this all begin in Laguna Seca?
“There have been lots of moments, at Laguna Seca he wanted to do what I had done to Stoner five years before, when he could easily have passed three corners later. It was the first signal. And I said so, but I did not want to believe it. To think evil, it takes forever.”
Wanting to make a literary comparison, since we are in Malaysia, do you feel like Sandokan fighting Yanez?
"I would not know. I do not think that there is this difference between me and Lorenzo. I think we're both brave, each in his own way, and also a bit cunning.
Wow. Interesting thoughts on MM sandbagging at Philip Island.
I understand the desire to conserve tires but his pace on the last lap suggests he was riding well below what he could do for the first 26 laps.
I'd say it would have been easy for MM to close the gap to JL and follow him for the entire race. But he didn't. Was he intentionally staying with VR and AI to slow them down?
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I understand the desire to conserve tires but his pace on the last lap suggests he was riding well below what he could do for the first 26 laps.
I'd say it would have been easy for MM to close the gap to JL and follow him for the entire race. But he didn't. Was he intentionally staying with VR and AI to slow them down?
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lator-illa
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Watch the press conference and you can see Vale's comments were not light-hearted. They were definitely said with intent. Even Vale's body language and face, you can clearly see that he's annoyed.
But Marquez wanting Jorge to win? I really find it hard to believe. If i'm not mistaken, these two spanish riders don't really like each other. Quite suprising that Vale would say these things. You've never seen Jorge invited to the Ranch. lol
And didn't Vale have a chance to show his wheel to Jorge as well? Not sure why he'd use this excuse? If Marc really wanted to help, he wouldn't have tried to win at the last corner, no?
It's funny if any other rider had said this, he'd be crucified by now. Or maybe just Jorge. lol
But Marquez wanting Jorge to win? I really find it hard to believe. If i'm not mistaken, these two spanish riders don't really like each other. Quite suprising that Vale would say these things. You've never seen Jorge invited to the Ranch. lol
And didn't Vale have a chance to show his wheel to Jorge as well? Not sure why he'd use this excuse? If Marc really wanted to help, he wouldn't have tried to win at the last corner, no?
It's funny if any other rider had said this, he'd be crucified by now. Or maybe just Jorge. lol
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I'm sure that MM wants to win more than he wants JL to win.
Looking back at the race their could be some merit to what VR is saying.
Maybe, just maybe, what VR is saying is true and MM got in the way just enough to keep VR from catching JL... Then on the last lap or two MM showed us the pace he could have been running, he easily caught up with JL.
Maybe.....
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Looking back at the race their could be some merit to what VR is saying.
Maybe, just maybe, what VR is saying is true and MM got in the way just enough to keep VR from catching JL... Then on the last lap or two MM showed us the pace he could have been running, he easily caught up with JL.
Maybe.....
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redridernl
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Rossi came off like a paranoid conspiracy theorist in that press conference. I don't believe for a second that Marquez would stick around and risk being taken out by Iannone or help Lorenzo in any way. Rossi is so used to messing with people that he assumes that's the way everyone operates. Since it was clear that Marquez wasn't going to get it this year, I've been rooting for Rossi but that was ludicrous.
redridernl
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If he really wanted to help Jorge, he wouldn't have passed him. He had no control over the Rossi/Iannone battle. For all Marquez knew he could have helped Rossi tremendously.
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