History, both recent (you know...) and past (Rossi leaving Honda), would dictate to me that Honda would rather see Lorenzo win than Rossi.
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History, both recent (you know...) and past (Rossi leaving Honda), would dictate to me that Honda would rather see Lorenzo win than Rossi.
That's debatable.
Rossi did leave but Rossi also won more titles for Honda than Lorenzo has. Yamaha has already won the manufacturers title. There may be some unofficial Honda orders coming down the line (mostly because it still seems Honda thinks Rossi kicked MMs brake lever on purpose) but I think that would be unlikely.
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Interesting perspective. I can see the older, established riders agreeing with you. They are aware of their racing abilities and limits. The younger racers that are still trying to find their place may not be as receptive to that idea.
I've searched internet far and wide for fact based MotoGP opinions vis-vis this very sensitive matter. Considering we're not on The Continent I think we're doing as well as can be expected.
Altho it must be kept in mind, younger MotoGP racers have been riding since age 2 and racing since 4 if home movies are to be believed. If they haven't figgered the details at 20+ maybe short yellow bus?
I feel like the cut off is the top ten riders. I wouldn't expect guys like Smith, Crutchlow, Petrucci, etc to simply move over but the guys towards the back (the CRT riders) like Hayden, Baz, West, etc should let him through.
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If CSBK was your main income-or let's say your day job i would believe your thoughts would be very similar to Ant West.
Someone on the bubble who doesn't have a guaranteed seat for next year shouldn't be just moving over for him.
Marquez really didn't have anything to gain by racing Rossi that hard as his riding future is already secured for a few years, and that's probably what has troubled most of the rossi fan boys.
Riceburner
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Maybe that's exactly why he was pushing on Rossi. His near future is set and he just wants to be a spoiler on Rossi for his perceived messing up of his challenge this year.
West admitted in his post (that has since been deleted) that he's not making any money from the few races in motoGP he's doing this year.
Not letting Rossi through will not affect the result of Ant West's race. Whether or not he lets him through, he's coming through. Back markers trying to race against Rossi in this situation would be almost as selfish as lapped traffic trying to race with him.
I really doubt my opinion would change if I had more skin in the game.
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lator-illa
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Good point, Jayv. Alot of these back markers are fighting for seats. They know they can easily be replaced.
Also, knowing full well you're racing for your sponsors and your team, would you change your line to let someone pass you? Tough call in this situation.
This is not to say that you should be 'scrapping' with Rossi as that would be fruitless especially if you're usually fighting for 15th.
Also, knowing full well you're racing for your sponsors and your team, would you change your line to let someone pass you? Tough call in this situation.
This is not to say that you should be 'scrapping' with Rossi as that would be fruitless especially if you're usually fighting for 15th.
Tough call? Every back marker will have his own unique situation. Overwhelmingly, I'd imagine, it's all about the future. What's the cost/risk fighting with Rossi coming thru? I can't see much of an up side, if you're running consistently slower laps than Rossi, how are you going to butter your bread messing with him? Team owners, sponsors aren't that daft, are they? No seriously, are they?
lator-illa
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I'd imagine that it would be an easy pass for Rossi anyway. But to purposely change your line to let him through? (ala Free practice).
It should be easy. Why make it uneasy?
lator-illa
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Okay sure, let's just remove half of the grid while we're at it.
Can they do that? Sweet.
If you/we think the backlash against MM is pretty harsh, can you imagine if a backmarker wiped Rossi out of the race while trying to "compete" with him. I think that would be worse for their career than letting Rossi through. Who's going to continue sponsoring a rider that everyone loath's? At least MM has enough of his own followers to weather the storm.
"The CAS expects to announce if Rossi's request for a penalty suspension has been accepted "no later than" Friday."
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/224878/1/rossi-wants-lorenzo-title-fight-on-equal-terms.html
Whoever wrote this piece shows great insight into the fragile psychological underpinnings of coddled superstars but beyond that, imho, shows even greater restraint in not addressing the elephant in the room. It's barely tolerable to be beaten in the championship by an aging fan favourite but to know that, outside the hallowed MotoGP circus, you look like a pint sized freak must be a rough go. Monkey mannerisms and speech impediment aside, VR could fit in with the rest of us. I'd buy a 46 hat.
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