says the guy riding a Blackbird... rofl
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says the guy riding a Blackbird... rofl
I don't recall saying anything of the sort, nor did I say that I can't control my right wrist, but you did say that ddusseld should get a Prius.
I also said Vespa. And there was a whole part of that post you conveniently chose not to address.
So tell me again where the line in the sand is for what's "too much" and "detrimental", because your bike can easily go 200+ as well yet you seem to be keeping it off the tow trucks...
Maybe we should categorize it for folks to know when they have "too much".. shall we say 117.89 horsepower as the limit for reasonable use, and anything above is just too frustrating to ride? Or should we leave the limit around 80hp and say that buying a bike with more power than that is stupid because you'll never "use it all" :lol:
So tell me again where the line in the sand is for what's "too much" and "detrimental", because your bike can easily go 200+ as well yet you seem to be keeping it off the tow trucks...
Maybe we should categorize it for folks to know when they have "too much".. shall we say 117.89 horsepower as the limit for reasonable use, and anything above is just too frustrating to ride? Or should we leave the limit around 80hp and say that buying a bike with more power than that is stupid because you'll never "use it all" :lol:
He didn't say anything about 'detrimental.' He said 'frustrating.'
If you're arguing against bikes with lots of power, you're saying that it's a detriment. Pretty straight forward.
Whether that detriment is frustration, lack of control, or fear of speeding tickets, it makes no difference... it's a "detriment", an argument against the bike.
And regarding ddussel's post.. he says "why have a fast bike if you have to go slow". 250km/h isn't fast? 200km/h on a 250R isn't "fast"?
Like I said, random lines in the sand based purely on people's comfort zones. If you can't keep your big bike off a flatbed, you've got serious self control issues.
Whether that detriment is frustration, lack of control, or fear of speeding tickets, it makes no difference... it's a "detriment", an argument against the bike.
And regarding ddussel's post.. he says "why have a fast bike if you have to go slow". 250km/h isn't fast? 200km/h on a 250R isn't "fast"?
Like I said, random lines in the sand based purely on people's comfort zones. If you can't keep your big bike off a flatbed, you've got serious self control issues.
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djez
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I love the blackbird and have used its power to the fullest, but i have 10x more fun with the 400cc in line-4 in real world Toronto driving condition.
And the blackbird is not naked.
Hey guys Im offering up the keys to my sweet rides... you pick!
:lol: I think I'll take the Civic... you know, because the 458 is just "too much" and I might get a speeding ticket if Im not careful :lol:
A more accurate comparison would be a Caterham 7 vs. a Ferrari 458... or maybe a Lotus Elise/Exige vs. 458.
I think I'd honestly rather have the Caterham or Exige. I'd definitely prefer the 7 or Exige if price were a factor.
I haven't tried any of these, but I think I'd find the Lotuses more fun in daily driving and in/around the speed limit. Also they're more elemental and lighter.
A Ferrari would beat me in a race, but I could live with that.
Anyways, this is a better and fairer comparison for an SV650 or a CB1 vs. an MV Brutale, Z1000, ...
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L O L
You've obviously never ridden any of the bikes. To imply that a soft bouncy SV650 can outhandle or outpace any of those bikes in any category is laughable. The SV650 and others in the cheap naked category are inexpensive for a reason. To think that they can outhandle a bigger bike just because they're "smaller" (which is a stupid argument in itself, as the dimensions are similar/same) is just ignorant.
Hey guys Im offering up the keys to my sweet rides... you pick!
:lol: I think I'll take the Civic... you know, because the 458 is just "too much" and I might get a speeding ticket if Im not careful :lol:
Geez, I STILL don't understand how this argument is continuing. Mmmnaked, I'm with you man. Having owned 600's and a 1000 (and realistically my Z was not even as powerful as the 1K supersports), I gotta say I'd take a litre any day.
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The Road Warrior
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FZ1 is too big and scary for some here. It's 1000cc's of pure horror and danger, that will kill you even if you only think about it.
Good call.
GHarvey
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Lol!
And in response to The Road Warrior, Yes it is a big bike! I was pushing it around the showroom today for pictures and couldnt believe how much heavier it was in comparison to the FZ8! Didnt catch if the guy was looking for his first bike or not but if it is a first bike then yes I would have to agree that its "It's 1000cc's of pure horror and danger, that will kill you even if you only think about it." lol
I love my 599. And anyone who has ever borrowed it for a ride has commented how much fun they have on it. Both on street and on track.
According to Yamaha, 467lbs for the FZ8 and 485 for the FZ1... hardly sounds like much of a difference.
GHarvey
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Really that little difference eh. I dont know why it felt a lot heavier to me. Felt like a good 40 - 50 pounds easy to me but I stand corrected.
