Shaman
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Another reason to love the Tuono. IIRC, first gear isn't good for more than 90km/h at redline. That said, I do have the (Aprilia-supplied) smaller front sprocket on.
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tonymorgan
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A 2012 Monster 796 with ABS is $11495
So you drop a tooth off the front and suddenly you're there, if you find that you're nowhere near the rev range that you want. It's unnecessary though, because you simply won't be able to take advantage of the majority of the greater power, that's available with a bigger bike. Compare zero to sixty times, between supersports and superbikes, and tell me that you're really buying a lot more performance for the road. Beyond that is really pretty immaterial, in this discussion.
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675cc triple, sits perfectly between a vanilla Honda 599 and a 'too much power' (according to you) Streetfighter 848!
I seriously can't believe it took 5 pages to mention this bike. Lots of Speed triple comments, but this sounds like the bike for you.
Oops...one person mentioned it.
Also...@ the OP, have you sat on a Super Duke? It's quite tall. I'm just shy of 6 feet and found it extremely uncomfortable. I eliminated it off the list of bikes at that point.
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I have more fun on a 1000 at 5000 rpm than 10,000, the back tire leaves more money on the ground when you give'er a good handful.
But that's the exact point that ddusseld was making; that exact behaviour will result in losing your bike and license for a week, these days.
Sorry but even a 600 tops out at well over 250kmh, it just doesn't get there as quickly. So basically you have to wait an extra few seconds before losing your licence?
You're talking about a self-control issue. If you don't trust yourself to keep your licence on a 1000 (I've been doing it for many years now successfully) then it's a whole other topic. It sounds like you don't want the extra power because you have no control over speeding??
Forget magazine times and bs 0-60 figures. The difference between a 1000 and a 600 is night and day... and it comes down to FEEL, not numbers. Having more than twice the torque available at any revs is a benefit for street riding, not a detriment. The extra power isn't only available when you pin the throttle 100%, it's available in all part throttle conditions from 1% to 100%, from 1km/h to 300km/h. So not only does the extra power feel awesome, it also provides you with flexibility... if you can control yourself
Accelerating from 0 up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a more powerful bike. Merging onto the highway up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a bigger bike. Accelerating to pass traffic on back roads is a bigger rush. Etc etc etc. The lower overall revs also provide a smoother, less buzzy and less noisy ride. And when you're lazy, you don't HAVE to shift to make some moves. I fail to see how more power is detrimental at all.
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Mine's in my locker, hehe.
Sorry but even a 600 tops out at well over 250kmh, it just doesn't get there as quickly. So basically you have to wait an extra few seconds before losing your licence?
You're talking about a self-control issue. If you don't trust yourself to keep your licence on a 1000 (I've been doing it for many years now successfully) then it's a whole other topic. It sounds like you don't want the extra power because you have no control over speeding??
Forget magazine times and bs 0-60 figures. The difference between a 1000 and a 600 is night and day... and it comes down to FEEL, not numbers. Having more than twice the torque available at any revs is a benefit for street riding, not a detriment. The extra power isn't only available when you pin the throttle 100%, it's available in all part throttle conditions from 1% to 100%, from 1km/h to 300km/h. So not only does the extra power feel awesome, it also provides you with flexibility... if you can control yourself
Accelerating from 0 up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a more powerful bike. Merging onto the highway up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a bigger bike. Accelerating to pass traffic on back roads is a bigger rush. Etc etc etc. The lower overall revs also provide a smoother, less buzzy and less noisy ride. And when you're lazy, you don't HAVE to shift to make some moves. I fail to see how more power is detrimental at all.
I agree 100%. I love the torque on my K1200R. It's geared like a 600, but has the power, torque, and top end of, well, a 1200 :lol: 94 ft-lbs of torque means I can pull in any gear. The engine is so torquey and flexible that I've ridden at city speeds in 6th gear and can still get out of the way.
Sorry but even a 600 tops out at well over 250kmh, it just doesn't get there as quickly. So basically you have to wait an extra few seconds before losing your licence?
You're talking about a self-control issue. If you don't trust yourself to keep your licence on a 1000 (I've been doing it for many years now successfully) then it's a whole other topic. It sounds like you don't want the extra power because you have no control over speeding??
Forget magazine times and bs 0-60 figures. The difference between a 1000 and a 600 is night and day... and it comes down to FEEL, not numbers. Having more than twice the torque available at any revs is a benefit for street riding, not a detriment. The extra power isn't only available when you pin the throttle 100%, it's available in all part throttle conditions from 1% to 100%, from 1km/h to 300km/h. So not only does the extra power feel awesome, it also provides you with flexibility... if you can control yourself
Accelerating from 0 up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a more powerful bike. Merging onto the highway up to the speed limit is a bigger rush on a bigger bike. Accelerating to pass traffic on back roads is a bigger rush. Etc etc etc. The lower overall revs also provide a smoother, less buzzy and less noisy ride. And when you're lazy, you don't HAVE to shift to make some moves. I fail to see how more power is detrimental at all.
The difference between a 1000 and a 600, on the street, is a tiny bit of extra work you have to put into having it taken away on the back of a flatbed.
DaveG
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I have managed the need for speed (acceleration mostly) on my Bandit 1200 for 10 years, but just traded it in on a 650 VStrom.
Love the B12, and it is faster than most think. A great real world bike I call it.
Wanted something that I could use more on dirt roads. Vstom top speed is app. 205 B12 is 255.
Have been riding for 46 years on the street and a few in motocross before that.
The desire to open it up is just too dangerous these days both from a safety and 50+ point of view.
Love the B12, and it is faster than most think. A great real world bike I call it.
Wanted something that I could use more on dirt roads. Vstom top speed is app. 205 B12 is 255.
Have been riding for 46 years on the street and a few in motocross before that.
The desire to open it up is just too dangerous these days both from a safety and 50+ point of view.
Ramtin
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i totally agree with ddusseld! i don't know why it's so hard to agree on the fact that BIGGER doesn't necessarily means better!
You have many different riders with different reasoning and opinions about what they want out of a motorcycle, why they even ride?
if you wanna have a wicked amount of power in your bike that you probably won't use all the time, and you enjoy it, then good for you! if we think a 650 is enough, then let us be happy with it! this is very simple!
You have many different riders with different reasoning and opinions about what they want out of a motorcycle, why they even ride?
if you wanna have a wicked amount of power in your bike that you probably won't use all the time, and you enjoy it, then good for you! if we think a 650 is enough, then let us be happy with it! this is very simple!
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A fast bike can go slow too, that's why there's a twisty throttle thingy on the right handlebar.
I don't mind if someone thinks X bike is enough and Z bike is too much, that's perfectly fine. I just don't like the flawed logic behind some of this thinking... namely the "you'll never use the power!" crowd. You use the additional power every time you twist the throttle, whether its 1% or 100%, as I explained earlier.
Carry on.
I don't mind if someone thinks X bike is enough and Z bike is too much, that's perfectly fine. I just don't like the flawed logic behind some of this thinking... namely the "you'll never use the power!" crowd. You use the additional power every time you twist the throttle, whether its 1% or 100%, as I explained earlier.
Carry on.
If your only doing 60 km/h and your all alone, there's none to take anything. They are too much for the street if you try and use all the power but I like having it on tap if I need it, not 3 gears away.
I see your point Rob but riding a 1000 isn't a guarnteed way to loose your liscence/bike, riding like an idiot is and can be done on a 125, it just takes alot more effort.
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