List top naked bikes for me!

Hey guys,
First off, thanks for reading and your time,

I am looking to upgrade in a year... did my time with a ninja 250 for a year and planning to do it again for another year to be fully comfortable.. having said that, i have already done a Europe ride with 650 naked bikes .. (TIME OF MY LIFE)... anyways, i'm really into naked bikes like Super Duke of KTM, Streetfighter, Z1000 and like them!

so my problems are...

1. DAMN IT CANADA why did they stop with KTM???? maybe they'll start again in 2013 but this just sucks! no more Super Duke for me! (that is my dream bike to have)

2. Streetfighter 848 looks VERY promising! but i have always heard Italian machines are not reliable... no offense but i've talked to more than couple of mechanics and they tell me the same thing... stick with Japanese & Austrian.. anyways, (don't start debating with me here.. i'm not looking to argue, just looking for experience and answers) thanks very much!

so what do you think? what would be the best route to go with? i mean in Canada we are SOOOO limited.. i hate that!
what are your thoughts in general?

thanks again!

Cheers!


Try the MV Brutale 1090RR or 990R great bike ridden them. Or the other option is the BMW K1300R I will probably pick one up in the spring. Need a second bike that I use for commuting to work.
 
SuperDuke's are out there, as has been shown in previous posts. Info has it that KTM is doing a pretty substantial re-design of a few bikes and will have a dealer launch this season some time and the new SuperDuke is rumoured to have an 1100-1200cc lump so you MAY want to wait.


brother, that would be a DREAM COME TRUE! damn it! i am gonna keep researching and waiting... my upgrade time will be 2013! meanwhile, i'm gonna get as much practice and experience as possible on the little ninja!
 
OH just remembered another one the SFV 650 Gladius !!! PLEASE let me know what u think of that one! thanks!

Unless you want to redo the major suspension parts, forget it. Rode one, and it wallowed worse than a hippo in heat. Read reviews afterwards, and they all said the same - suspension is completely lousy and the brakes are underpowered.
 
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eats anything else for me!
 

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Buddy, you're the one who brought up those bikes... unwad your panties. You asked for a list of top naked bikes and you got it, but then you creamed your pants over an ER6N. We're just telling you that the Kawi won't compare to the others. But you're a newb coming off a 250 so you don't understand this. I'm an experienced rider with tons of miles on tons of different bikes, so take my opinion for what its worth. A bigger engine IS better, and you use the extra power every time you twist the throttle. It has nothing to do with taking a bike to a track.
Man, you are sounding like newbie and poser though!
 
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For some riders this is true.

For me bigger engine, more torque and power = boring, frustrating and less street friendly. Smaller engine, less torque and power = fun, less frustrating and more street friendly.


For your info Ramtin , BIGGER engine, more torque and power = more street friendly.

Smaller engine, less torque and power = LESS street friendly.
 
How does a big engine "frustrate" you?

I've never thought to myself "damn this engine is frustrating" while driving a Corvette.... :lol: can't say the same about a Honda Civic.
 
ooohhh! interesting posts today!... just like i can't compare 650s to 1000+s, i don't think anybody can compare 2 wheelers to 4 wheelers!


ddusseld, THANK YOU! lol

look i have tried a 1000cc sports bike too... its not like im talking to these guys with no experience at all!... i think i can say that i can imagine how insane it must be using them on the streets! specially with Canadian laws!

again just to be clear... myself, i posted this to gain more knowledge and for everyone to share their experiences. there's always something to learn.. and a wise man will even learn from the inexperienced!

but i'm at work now, so i'll be getting back to you guys tonight!

be nice though everyone!
 
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I'm very frustrated every time I ride a litre bike and realize I can't really twist the throttle in anger without hitting hta 172 territory. It annoys me to no end to have all this potential power and not really get to use it.



How does a big engine "frustrate" you?

I've never thought to myself "damn this engine is frustrating" while driving a Corvette.... :lol: can't say the same about a Honda Civic.
 
I'm very frustrated every time I ride a litre bike and realize I can't really twist the throttle in anger without hitting hta 172 territory. It annoys me to no end to have all this potential power and not really get to use it.

I disagree. You use the power whenever you twist the throttle... especially in situations like passing, merging onto the highway, coming out of corners, etc etc. All these things are definitely more 'frustrating' on a smaller engine bike, especially bikes like highly-strung 600s which make peanuts for power until 10,000rpm. The big engine, as you already know, provides more power everywhere in the rev range, not just at peak... so you're using it every single time you ride the bike.

The topic of not being able to use ALL of the power (all ~200hp) is another subject entirely, and it's something easily controlled by your right wrist. I think 600cc supersports are even worse at this because you REALLY have no power until you're approaching highway speeds. First gear generally tops out at what, 120kmh? Until you hit around 80, the bike is totally lethargic. In cases like this I'd way rather have a 650 twin with a more usable power delivery, than a 600cc I4 which is all top end.
 
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I disagree. You use the power whenever you twist the throttle... especially in situations like passing, merging onto the highway, coming out of corners, etc etc. All these things are definitely more 'frustrating' on a smaller engine bike, especially bikes like highly-strung 600s which make peanuts for power until 10,000rpm. The big engine, as you already know, provides more power everywhere in the rev range, not just at peak... so you're using it every single time you ride the bike.

The topic of not being able to use ALL of the power (all ~200hp) is another subject entirely, and it's something easily controlled by your right wrist. I think 600cc supersports are even worse at this because you REALLY have no power until you're approaching highway speeds. First gear generally tops out at what, 120kmh? Until you hit around 80, the bike is totally lethargic. In cases like this I'd way rather have a 650 twin with a more usable power delivery, than a 600cc I4 which is all top end.

Really? Try gearing down.
 
I'm very frustrated every time I ride a litre bike and realize I can't really twist the throttle in anger without hitting hta 172 territory. It annoys me to no end to have all this potential power and not really get to use it.

like being with a hot ready to go chick on the bench of the school playground at 11am. not that easy to stay in control for some of us.
 
Really? Try gearing down.

Not applicable. I've ridden (and owned) the 650 twins and there's no amount of gearing down that gets those bikes moving on the highway. Gearing down doesn't create any more horsepower, it just multiplies what's already there... and what's there is only 60 ponies. Furthermore, riding around the streets on a 600 doesn't leave you any room to gear down because below 70kmh you're out of gears to move down into. The power is too high up in the rev range, and the gears are too tall for street use. This, to me, is why 600cc supersports are the dumbest street bikes for anybody to own... the power is completely unusable because it's all up top, and to get there, you basically have get going to highway speeds.
 
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I disagree with your disagreement.... :) Sure you use the power when accelerating but you have to shut it down very quickly or you hit 172 territory. Maybe a better way to describe my feeling is that you can use only a small amount of the potential of the litre class bike on the street. The more powerful the engine the less of it's potential you can use.

I love riding highly strung 600s. The boring part I mention in riding a litre class bike is that all you really do is twist the throttle. No need to think about what gear you are in or if you are in a good power band. Just twist the throttle. To me, boring. On a 600 you have to work a bit to keep it in a decent power band. I thoroughly enjoy this aspect of riding.

I currently ride a 800cc parallel twin. The most charitable way to describe the engine power is under whelming... :) But with the new world order in Ontario, under whelming is just fine with me.. :)

I disagree. You use the power whenever you twist the throttle... especially in situations like passing, merging onto the highway, coming out of corners, etc etc. All these things are definitely more 'frustrating' on a smaller engine bike, especially bikes like highly-strung 600s which make peanuts for power until 10,000rpm. The big engine, as you already know, provides more power everywhere in the rev range, not just at peak... so you're using it every single time you ride the bike.

The topic of not being able to use ALL of the power (all ~200hp) is another subject entirely, and it's something easily controlled by your right wrist. I think 600cc supersports are even worse at this because you REALLY have no power until you're approaching highway speeds. First gear generally tops out at what, 120kmh? Until you hit around 80, the bike is totally lethargic. In cases like this I'd way rather have a 650 twin with a more usable power delivery, than a 600cc I4 which is all top end.
 
Not applicable. I've ridden (and owned) the 650 twins and there's no amount of gearing down that gets those bikes moving on the highway. Gearing down doesn't create any more horsepower, it just multiplies what's already there... and what's there is only 60 ponies. Furthermore, riding around the streets on a 600 doesn't leave you any room to gear down because below 70kmh you're out of gears to move down into. The power is too high up in the rev range, and the gears are too tall for street use. This, to me, is why 600cc supersports are the dumbest street bikes for anybody to own... the power is completely unusable because it's all up top, and to get there, you basically have get going to highway speeds.

well, some of us under 25-ers, must make some sacrifices when riding. i have ridden litre bikes, and i do like a couple. but for me, insurance is what governs the bikes i choose. a street triple was considered a ss bike, the speed triple was. the daytona was an ss, but at only 675 cc it fell into a lower bracket than the 848, 1000, 1050 cc bikes. and the price differences when you're under 25 are criminal.
 
Hey at least you picked the 675! Of the "600s" that's easily the best one..

I love riding highly strung 600s. The boring part I mention in riding a litre class bike is that all you really do is twist the throttle. No need to think about what gear you are in or if you are in a good power band. Just twist the throttle. To me, boring. On a 600 you have to work a bit to keep it in a decent power band. I thoroughly enjoy this aspect of riding.

I never got that. It's just a gear change... the act of pushing up or down on the shifter never gave me any joy :lol:

What do you do? Blast around city streets constantly shifting gears, pretending you're racing? haha

Anyways, I ride a 1k twin with relatively short gearing so I get the best of both worlds.
 
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