Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

zooropa_chris said:
When I went to sell a motorcycle a couple years ago, I had a guy who called up and insisted he wanted a litre bike. I asked what he has ridden in the past. He said, "oh, I've ridden everything. Honda's, Yamaha's, Suzuki's, Kawasaki's". I asked for what specific bike he has had, and he said he can't remember the model. If you have ever ridden, you know what you had and presently have and would be proud to say what your ride is.
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Well I have not ridden "everything", and I don't want to buy a bike from you. I know what I have had and if you want to find out what I have had, go ahead and search my posts because I mention a few of my past bikes in them. I would be proud to say what I ride now, but have no interest in proving anything to you. There are a few people on this board who do know what I ride and who I am, and who I call "friend". You simply are not one of them so it is none of your business.
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

zooropa_chris said:
When I went to sell a motorcycle a couple years ago, I had a guy who called up and insisted he wanted a litre bike. I asked what he has ridden in the past. He said, "oh, I've ridden everything. Honda's, Yamaha's, Suzuki's, Kawasaki's". I asked for what specific bike he has had, and he said he can't remember the model. If you have ever ridden, you know what you had and presently have and would be proud to say what your ride is.
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He doesn't even ride?? Damn, I didnt even knew
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

RockerGuy said:
Dude, I told u before, u are just missing out
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The way I see it, if I wouldn't talk to these people face to face because I think they're idiots, why would I want to do it on the net?



FullMotoJacket said:
If I'm not on it, please add me.
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You're not yet but I'm sure you will be...
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

So why did Michael Byrant not need to explain his actions in a court? I thought it would be illegal to drag a guy hanging on the side of your car to his death. Scaring off three people trying to burn your house down while your asleep gets you arrested and your firearms stolen I mean seized and according to the cop below a chance to explain your actions in court. He should have just run them down and killed them with a vehicle, everything would have been OK then, Michael Byrant says so.

If the public are wondering can you run out of your house and [fire a handgun at an intruder], the bottom line is, according to the laws of Canada, no, you can’t,” said Constable Nilan Dave of the Niagara Regional Police Service, which charged Mr. Thomson. “That’s why the courts are there, to give a person an opportunity to explain their actions.”​
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

Hope the old dude wins his case if the story is correct. Seems kind of paranoid for someone that has "no enemies". What's up with the survailance???
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

rafiki911 said:
Hope the old dude wins his case if the story is correct. Seems kind of paranoid for someone that has "no enemies". What's up with the survailance???
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Well there's any number of valid reasons to have surveillance. I'd imagine that if you have a lot of property that you'd want to keep an eye on it. That said, he clearly does have an enemy as the story states that he had some beef with one of his neighbours haha.
 
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puck puck puck pucka
 
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The neighbor had already been convicted and sentenced to 0 days in jail for uttering threats. In any case, the victim was most likely a collector. One gun is more than enough for protection.
What turbo doesn't realize here is that they could have been running back to the truck to get more Molotovs or they may have had weapons stashed away, or even kick-to-the-head-warranting shotguns shoved up their rectums (using a bit of turbo cop-defense logic here) :cool: If I had been in the victim's slippers, that would have been my story and I'd have stuck to it, with my lawyer present and not uttered a word other than my name and place of residence, without him/her present.
Turbo, don't forget that technically, in our justice system, to convict a person, you have to prove the Actur Reus (guilty act) and Mens Rea (guilty mind). Therefore, if the victim honestly believed that they were running to the truck to get more weapons, technically, he could justify bustin' caps in all of their [synonym for "donkeys"] even if they were running away from him.
 
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daught said:
Because they protect their own bad apples. When we lump cops together in a conversation nothing really happens. When cops lump together protesters innocent people get seriously hurt. There is quite a difference.
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Well said!

Also, they're professionals. You'd think that having a bunch of loose cannons running their mouths off would be a concern for a group of professionals trying to maintain some type of public image.
 
Re: don't steal.... from the police

I think the majority of people here are not "FTP"ers (i hate labels) but to lump any discussion of public servant blunders under one thread of "i hate cops" is wrong. This is an off topic motorcycle forum in the dead of winter afterall...
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

Flashmonkey said:
as the story states that he had some beef with one of his neighbours haha.
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i thought it was chicken haha
 
Re: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers

inreb said:
i thought it was chicken haha
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Haha geez some days I can't keep up with you.
 
Re: don't steal.... from the police

I'm not an FTP'er and I don't wanna be categorized as such. Hell, I'm related to a whole bunch of cops by blood or by marriage. However, they're just as shocked at the abuse stories that grind my gears as I am.. Even more so as that behavior sullies their image and makes their work that much difficult.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

FullMotoJacket said:
In before the "usual suspects" waltz in and state that the cop had no idea whether the wrong guy he creamed didn't have a gun, so he was justified in "knocking him down".
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The crimials they were looking for were not armed and dangerous. Just Kids fighting. Why assume that they had guns? Maybe they had explosives on them and when hit like that they would go off? Maybe they should just shoot to wound anyone that runs from cops? Better chance of recovery. Or if your speeding, when they come to your vehicle they should clock you one over the head with the stick, just to make sure that you won't get violent or pull a weapon?
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

imkruzen said:
The crimials they were looking for were not armed and dangerous. Just Kids fighting.
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Fighting and resulting in a stabbing. That would lead a reasonable person to assume them likely to be armed and dangerous.
Harris had been mistakenly identified by a witness as part of a group that shortly beforehand had been involved in a stabbing.
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On May 10, 2009, Chris Harris, now 30, was walking through an alley in Seattle's Belltown neighborhood when a woman pointed him out to two King County sheriff's deputies as a suspect involved in a bloody bar fight that re-erupted at a nearby convenience store.
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The incident occurred while the deputies, who were assigned to Metro Transit, were working the graveyard shift patrolling downtown bus routes.

At about 1 a.m., they received a report of a disturbance at a bar at Second Avenue and Bell Street involving broken bottles and a fight, Urquhart said.

Shortly after, a bloodied man ran into a nearby convenience store, chased by other men with blood on them, Urquhart said. The chase then continued outside the store.

Two women in the area told the deputies they thought a stabbing or robbery had occurred, Urquhart said.

One of the women led the deputies to Blanchard Street, between Second and Third avenues, and when Harris appeared across the street, she identified him as being involved in the assault, Urquhart said.

The deputies reported that Harris had a look in his eyes as if he were going to run, and then pulled a hood up over his head and took off, Urquhart said.

The deputies shouted for him to stop, identifying themselves as police, Urquhart said.

Detectives later determined Harris was not part of the bar altercation; those involved were never found.

Urquhart said investigators don't know why Harris ran, but they noted that four witnesses, including the woman who misidentified Harris, said they heard the deputies repeatedly yell "stop, police" or "police officers." http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2009249844_copchase22m.html
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turbodish said:
Fighting and resulting in a stabbing. That would lead a reasonable person to assume them likely to be armed and dangerous.
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So shoot the MFker.
 
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