Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Re: THIS IS NOT CANADA ANYMORE!!! :snorting:

I'm somewhat intrigued by all the naivete around here.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

LOL. It's like the guy has some internal decoder that translates every other word he reads into perp or justified.
 
Re: THIS IS NOT CANADA ANYMORE!!! :snorting:

The obvious answer would be "if this is not Canada, then you're not in your jurisdiction, so @#$% off."
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

How the hell do you get that (stated as FACT......as usual) from this?

Well, there's this:
The King County Sheriff’s Office says the force used on Harris was within legal boundaries, and the outcome is “a tragic accident.” A spokesman said officers had identified themselves to Harris, but Harris pulled a hoodie over his face and ran from them. http://streetroots.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/officers-shove-puts-seattle-man-in-coma-2/
Point is, it's not as simple as the cops picking someone out at random and tackling him out of mistaken identity. The guy was pointed out by a witness as being part of a stabbing, the guy ran when cops approached, and ran for 2-1/2 blocks.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

Well, there's this:
Point is, it's not as simple as the cops picking someone out at random and tackling him out of mistaken identity. The guy was pointed out by a witness as being part of a stabbing, the guy ran when cops approached, and ran for 2-1/2 blocks.


You conveniently left out the part about there being a fight/stabbing nearby, and the cops were dressed in fatigues.

Hmmmmmm some guy catches wind of some unidentified guys in the area involved in a stabbing, then some unidentified guys in fatigues, who some witness say never identified themselves as police, yell at him then go after him, and he runs. That's a shocker.
 
Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

Now I'm waiting for someone to post the next tutorial on how to best go about shoplifting from stores, how to defraud the cell phone companies, and how to get gas from gas stations without paying. It's all in the same realm of behaviour.

Just dont chide anyone for doing so. You get banned. Trust me. LOL.
 
Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

Now I'm waiting for someone to post the next tutorial on how to best go about shoplifting from stores, how to defraud the cell phone companies, and how to get gas from gas stations without paying. It's all in the same realm of behaviour.

all of the above have been stealing from the people for years. are they classified in that realm of behaviour
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

You conveniently left out the part about there being a fight/stabbing nearby, and the cops were dressed in fatigues.

Hmmmmmm some guy catches wind of some unidentified guys in the area involved in a stabbing, then some unidentified guys in fatigues, who some witness say never identified themselves as police, yell at him then go after him, and he runs. That's a shocker.

I left nothing out. Review my posts and the quotes in them again. The guys in "fatigues" were cops in black short-sleeve shirt uniforms, full holster, duty belts and their badges prominently displayed in the expected place on their upper left chests. Even from grainy store surveillance video they are clearly identifiable as cops. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyrL6PKYCug Do you want to try again?
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

Almost everyone in here is on my ignore list, so I don't really have anything to add.

Glad turbo found the rest of the story regarding the footage so at least both sides of the story are there.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

it's this kind of thinking,"turbo' we the police can never do wrong. thats gives them the bigger than god attitude in the first place.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

it's this kind of thinking,"turbo' we the police can never do wrong. thats gives them the bigger than god attitude in the first place.

As opposed to the different kind of thinking among the certain usual suspects here that the police are always wrong no matter what they do?
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

As opposed to the different kind of thinking among the certain usual suspects here that the police are always wrong no matter what they do?

hey i'll not denie, i have no love towards the cops.

but you for once atleast stand for the people.

dude you don't even know how messed up it looks when you post your ******** remarks trying to make everything look good for a reason.
 
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Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

all of the above have been stealing from the people for years. are they classified in that realm of behaviour

That's pretty weak rationalization on your part. They offer a product to the public, and they charge for that product. Charging a price for a product is not stealing. If you don't like the price, you have the right of choice to buy or not buy, but you do not have the right to steal.
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

Almost everyone in here is on my ignore list, so I don't really have anything to add.

Glad turbo found the rest of the story regarding the footage so at least both sides of the story are there.

groovy
 
Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

That's pretty weak rationalization on your part. They offer a product to the public, and they charge for that product. Charging a price for a product is not stealing. If you don't like the price, you have the right of choice to buy or not buy, but you do not have the right to steal.

you my friend, and I are never going to agree on ****. your so for the law and i'm so against it
 
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Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

thats ok graves,i really hope i'm on that list of 'ignore'
 
Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

So you think it's alright to steal from others?

Is it alright for others to steal from you if they can rationalize it to themselves?
 
Re: Innocent Man In Coma After 'Hard Shove' By Police Officer

I can't believe I am saying this but the force used, if anything, was less than appropriate for tackling a suspect who could have been armed with a knife. We have seen plenty of film of cops shooting unarmed suspects dead, some where the suspects were already in handcuffs. It is a tragic, tragic accident. Unfortunately the Police have such a horrible reputation for over agressive, shoot first action that it will be seen as just one more piece of bullying. The fact that so many officers have got away with so many cases of abuse in the past wont help people look at this objectively.

It may well be the cop in question is despicable. He may well be one of the good guys, but pushing over a suspect who could have been armed with a knife seems fair. And I dont think you can debate whether the officer pushed too hard or not. He had to take down a suspect who had tried to evade them. I suppose it could also be debated as to what motivated the 'suspect/victim' to run. Maybe because he, or someone he knows, has been subject to Police abuse before. Who knows? Many young people nowadays live in fear of the Police as they only see bad.

I dont think i'm smarter than anyone else here or more objective. I can be myopic on many subjects. I've also suffered at the hands of the Police a couple of times as well so am no fan. I'm just expressing an opinion based on what i have seen on other video before. And after listening to a YRP officer talking about takedowns and 'appropriate force'.

A horrible, horrible outcome.
 
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