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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Another justice system failure. Pill mill in Richmond Hill operated by someone out on bail and probation. IIRC, in the US, probation subjects you to inspection at any time for any reason. I have no idea if Canada has something similar. This wasn't an overnight operation.

 
Another justice system failure. Pill mill in Richmond Hill operated by someone out on bail and probation. IIRC, in the US, probation subjects you to inspection at any time for any reason. I have no idea if Canada has something similar. This wasn't an overnight operation.

I'm not sure if inspection of residence is among the "special terms" that can be imposed upon parole, but the original sentence can be reinstated. So if someone was convicted of a charge resulting in a ten year sentence, but released on probation after 6 years, they can have their probation revoked and be made to serve the last 4 years of their original sentence.
 
I'm not sure if inspection of residence is among the "special terms" that can be imposed upon parole, but the original sentence can be reinstated. So if someone was convicted of a charge resulting in a ten year sentence, but released on probation after 6 years, they can have their probation revoked and be made to serve the last 4 years of their original sentence.
Probation plus bail means that this is at least their second arrest with charges after they were granted probation (and obviously no search of residence after first arrest). Catch and release.
 
Probation plus bail means that this is at least their second arrest with charges after they were granted probation (and obviously no search of residence after first arrest). Catch and release.
Unfortunately, revocation of bail seems to be a very rare thing, which is why I didn't mention it. Given that some people the courts now deal with are career criminals, who are constantly in and out of jail, revocation of bail should become a more common thing.
 
Unfortunately, revocation of bail seems to be a very rare thing, which is why I didn't mention it. Given that some people the courts now deal with are career criminals, who are constantly in and out of jail, revocation of bail should become a more common thing.
Alternatively, especially if you are on probation, bail should be reverse onus. You've been convicted recently and now managed to get the attention of police again and they believe they have enough evidence to charge you. That shows you still make bad choices. Arrest while on bail/probation should trigger an automatic search of residence/vehicle.
 
Probation plus bail means that this is at least their second arrest with charges after they were granted probation (and obviously no search of residence after first arrest). Catch and release.
Dystopia? Why should a cop risk getting injured or killed when the punk is back on the streets in hours?

For the victim, just install more security devices and increase your insurance coverage. How does that affect inflation?
 
For the victim, just install more security devices and increase your insurance coverage. How does that affect inflation?
Given that they had more than 34,000 pills, the "victims" are likely many auto/home/commercial policies that pay for the smash and grabs conducted to buy the pills. A few degrees of separation from the factory. $1M street value probably means 10M to 100M in damage caused to raise that money.
 
Given that they had more than 34,000 pills, the "victims" are likely many auto/home/commercial policies that pay for the smash and grabs conducted to buy the pills. A few degrees of separation from the factory. $1M street value probably means 10M to 100M in damage caused to raise that money.
I occasionally fix cottage stuff. A doctor with a physio clinic asked if I had a health plan. I told him it was through my wife's job. He wanted to pay me with fake receipts for physio so my wife's insurer would pay for his cottage fix up.

I don't deal with scumballs.
 
bail should be reverse onus
That would be counter to the law. You are considered innocent till convicted, automatically going to reverse onus says you are assuming guilt on the first charge.
What we DO have is a "show cause" hearing, where the crown puts forth the case that reverse onus should be applied... basically a new bail hearing on all charges.
 
That would be counter to the law. You are considered innocent till convicted, automatically going to reverse onus says you are assuming guilt on the first charge.
What we DO have is a "show cause" hearing, where the crown puts forth the case that reverse onus should be applied... basically a new bail hearing on all charges.
I was more thinking as a probation condition. If you managed to get a criminal charge while on probation, you probably shouldn't be out in public. Sure, you may get off, but you knew you needed to be on your best behaviour and still managed to attract attention. Time in the penalty box seems warranted (as well as close scrutiny of your life to ensure that you are actually complying with your conditions).
 
I was more thinking as a probation condition. If you managed to get a criminal charge while on probation, you probably shouldn't be out in public. Sure, you may get off, but you knew you needed to be on your best behaviour and still managed to attract attention. Time in the penalty box seems warranted (as well as close scrutiny of your life to ensure that you are actually complying with your conditions).
I love this cop's videos. He is so cool.

 
I occasionally fix cottage stuff. A doctor with a physio clinic asked if I had a health plan. I told him it was through my wife's job. He wanted to pay me with fake receipts for physio so my wife's insurer would pay for his cottage fix up.

I don't deal with scumballs.
Was said doctor in either Mississauga or Brampton? My insurer sent out a list of clinics that they would not reimburse for, a couple of years back, that were all in those two areas.
 
Was said doctor in either Mississauga or Brampton? My insurer sent out a list of clinics that they would not reimburse for, a couple of years back, that were all in those two areas.
That would be a challenge. Suing him for unpaid repairs in a joint fraud scam.

A friend was in a sleazy bar and muttered something indicating wanting another person seriously injured.

The guy next him overheard and says in a thug like voice "For 500 bucks me and Louie here can fix it so he never walks right again." My friend declined the offer but if he had taken it on, can you imagine going to the police or any court to get a refund if they didn't do the deed.
 
I'm not sure if inspection of residence is among the "special terms" that can be imposed upon parole, but the original sentence can be reinstated. So if someone was convicted of a charge resulting in a ten year sentence, but released on probation after 6 years, they can have their probation revoked and be made to serve the last 4 years of their original sentence.

I think you're confusing parole with probation.
You wouldn't be released on probation after serving 6 years of a 10 year sentence.
 
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That would be counter to the law. You are considered innocent till convicted, automatically going to reverse onus says you are assuming guilt on the first charge.
What we DO have is a "show cause" hearing, where the crown puts forth the case that reverse onus should be applied... basically a new bail hearing on all charges.

a show cause hearing.. is a bail hearing. The charges and circumstance will dictate the onus.. certain charges will automatically make it a reverse onus hearing.
 

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