Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

[Rob MacLennan]

As expected, "professional courtesy" extended to drunk hit and run cop who gave a motorcyclist life-altering injuries. No custodial sentence. Expect to see this dickwad carrying a gun in the street soon. Suspended for four years with pay so far. PSA needs to change.

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Unfortunately, leaving the scene likely saved him from the impaired operation causing injury charge. Depending upon what evidence they had, the dangerous operation charge might have been a hard one to prove. Still, police need to be held to a higher standard in such instances, not the same standard as the average citizen, because they are supposed to have more than a passing acquaintance with the law.

 

[FullMotoJacket]

they are supposed to have more than a passing acquaintance with the law.

I've dealt with my fair share of cops that seemed to only have a passing acquaintance of the law.

 

[nobbie48]

To Swerve and Connect

The clip indicates no pay and probation plus, driving restrictions. What does he do if he returns to work and isn't allowed to drive. Bicycle cop or high priced file clerk I suppose.

I'm surprised he was hit that hard.

Nine months house arrest, let's see ......paint living room, redecorate rec room, new deck

Cops have attitude. The public has attitude. Who blinks first?

 

[raginduck]

As expected, "professional courtesy" extended to drunk hit and run cop who gave a motorcyclist life-altering injuries. No custodial sentence. Expect to see this dickwad carrying a gun in the street soon. Suspended for four years with pay so far. PSA needs to change.

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Cops get fired when sentenced to prison.. because they can't show up for work. This guy is under house arrest.. He can't show up for work!?
Hopefully they fire him!

 

[GreyGhost]

Cops get fired when sentenced to prison.. because they can't show up for work. This guy is under house arrest.. He can't show up for work!?
Hopefully they fire him!

I thought it required a custodial sentence?

Looks like PSA says if you were sentenced to "imprisonment" they can bump to to suspended without pay. There doesn't seem to be a definition of imprisonment. I suspect house-arrest doesn't count (but would be happy if I was wrong). Dirtbag scum.

 

[raginduck]

I thought it required a custodial sentence?

Looks like PSA says if you were sentenced to "imprisonment" they can bump to to suspended without pay. There doesn't seem to be a definition of imprisonment. I suspect house-arrest doesn't count (but would be happy if I was wrong). Dirtbag scum.

I think the guy has been suspended without pay since the incident.

Criminal code calls it imprisonment.

Imposing of conditional sentence

742.1 If a person is convicted of an offence and the court imposes a sentence of imprisonment of less than two years, the court may, for the purpose of supervising the offender’s behaviour in the community, order that the offender serve the sentence in the community, subject to the conditions imposed under section 742.3

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Ottawa police officer confronted child for flipping the bird: human rights lawyer - Ottawa | Globalnews.ca

Anne Levesque was with her daughters standing at a downtown Ottawa bus stop May 9 when two police officers in a cruiser pulled over an elementary school bus filled with children.

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Better teach those kids about "Contempt of Cop" while they're young!

There was a recent judgment in Quebec stating that flipping the bird is protected speech, under The Charter. Someone forgot to tell them, I guess, because that would mean it's a breach of the Charter Rights of everyone on that buse to do what these cops did. Hope the civil liberties types are lining up at their door.

 

[nobbie48]

Ottawa police officer confronted child for flipping the bird: human rights lawyer - Ottawa | Globalnews.ca

Anne Levesque was with her daughters standing at a downtown Ottawa bus stop May 9 when two police officers in a cruiser pulled over an elementary school bus filled with children.

globalnews.ca

Better teach those kids about "Contempt of Cop" while they're young!

There was a recent judgment in Quebec stating that flipping the bird is protected speech, under The Charter. Someone forgot to tell them, I guess, because that would mean it's a breach of the Charter Rights of everyone on that buse to do what these cops did. Hope the civil liberties types are lining up at their door.

The battle for who can be the most obnoxious continues.

You take your kids out for lunch at a decent restaurant the family at the next table is referring to the wait staff and others as whores, MF's, C's and CS's and you're OK with it? Where does freedom of speech end?

From Wikipedia:

In Western culture, "the finger", or the middle finger (as in giving someone the (middle) finger, the bird[1] or flipping someone off)[1] is an obscene hand gesture. The gesture communicates moderate to extreme contempt, and is roughly equivalent in meaning to "f*** you

If a person uses sign language to comment on a woman's sexuality is it still sexual harassment?

The cops pulling over the bus was muscle flexing gone stupid as is wasting court time to empower the brat. And we wonder why the thin blue line sticks together like it does. Why would they care if your bike got stolen?

People in my house are expected to respect others. If you chose otherwise please leave. If I had control over the bus I would tell the kid not to disrespect others while on my property. And by the way, find another way to school tomorrow.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

The battle for who can be the most obnoxious continues.

You take your kids out for lunch at a decent restaurant the family at the next table is referring to the wait staff and others as whores, MF's, C's and CS's and you're OK with it? Where does freedom of speech end?

From Wikipedia:

In Western culture, "the finger", or the middle finger (as in giving someone the (middle) finger, the bird[1] or flipping someone off)[1] is an obscene hand gesture. The gesture communicates moderate to extreme contempt, and is roughly equivalent in meaning to "f*** you

If a person uses sign language to comment on a woman's sexuality is it still sexual harassment?

The cops pulling over the bus was muscle flexing gone stupid as is wasting court time to empower the brat. And we wonder why the thin blue line sticks together like it does. Why would they care if your bike got stolen?

People in my house are expected to respect others. If you chose otherwise please leave. If I had control over the bus I would tell the kid not to disrespect others while on my property. And by the way, find another way to school tomorrow.

I think that we're all well aware of what flipping the bird means. There's no need to pull out references or dictionary definitions. It simply looks pedantic.

There are many, many rude and uncouth people in society. What did this police action achieve, other than potentially resulting in a bus-load of kids who now all don't particularly like cops? it was an abuse of power. In my job I can't tell stupid clients that they're stupid, or I don't have a job. I don't get to walk around with the power of the government backing up my abuses. Quite the contrary; the government is who would be tossing me out on my ear.

 

[raginduck]

Widow whose husband was killed by speeding Ontario police officer told misconduct was 'not serious'

A grieving widow whose husband was run over and killed by a speeding OPP officer can't believe the force told her it won't hold a public hearing into the case because it decided the misconduct was 'not serious.'

toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[nobbie48]

Widow whose husband was killed by speeding Ontario police officer told misconduct was 'not serious'

A grieving widow whose husband was run over and killed by a speeding OPP officer can't believe the force told her it won't hold a public hearing into the case because it decided the misconduct was 'not serious.'

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Try fighting it. The widow pays for her legal team while the taxpayer with, according to the government, has endless money pays for the OPP defense.

In the event of going to court the crown can simple decide not to proceed.

 

[Rob MacLennan]

Try fighting it. The widow pays for her legal team while the taxpayer with, according to the government, has endless money pays for the OPP defense.

In the event of going to court the crown can simple decide not to proceed.

The only likely remedy would be Civil, which would leave The Crown out of it.

 

[GreyGhost]

The only likely remedy would be Civil, which would leave The Crown out of it.

But still be fighting the war chest of a huge entity.

 

[GreyGhost]

Durham dui cop gets demoted for 9 months for bringing disrepute to the service. Meanwhile, he has no license for 12 months. Paying someone 100k that can't do the job brings a lot of disrepute to the service. At a minimum, this should have been suspended without pay until he has a license.

Durham police officer convicted of drinking and driving offence demoted

“His actions are clearly unacceptable,” hearing officer declares in ruling

www.durhamregion.com

 

[nobbie48]

Durham dui cop gets demoted for 9 months for bringing disrepute to the service. Meanwhile, he has no license for 12 months. Paying someone 100k that can't do the job brings a lot of disrepute to the service. At a minimum, this should have been suspended without pay until he has a license.

Durham police officer convicted of drinking and driving offence demoted

“His actions are clearly unacceptable,” hearing officer declares in ruling

www.durhamregion.com

I don't know if cops walk the beat anymore. There are also bicycle patrols and some forces have mounted units.

A big problem is mutual respect. The officer above failed to respect his profession but on the other hand the public often fails to respect the police when they do their duty.

 

[nobbie48]

Something that bothers me is that alcoholism is considered a disease and you can't be fired for having a disease. What do you do with a commercial pilot that develops diabetes or starts suffering from epilepsy or Parkinson's?

I personally think the aforementioned can't be cured, only controlled, and a sudden breakdown could be a major disaster. There is also the drunk who chooses to get wasted when he wants to, a different case.

Employers can only financially absorb so much of the above cases.

 

[mimico_polak]

My dad works for a union here in Toronto and he says all the time guys come in stoned / drunk and if they get caught...'but I have a disease, you can't fire me. I need help.'

So the company / union sends them for treatment, and then he gets paid, doesn't need to work, passes the 'program' and then comes back drunk again a few days later.

Rinse and repeat.

 

[nobbie48]

My dad works for a union here in Toronto and he says all the time guys come in stoned / drunk and if they get caught...'but I have a disease, you can't fire me. I need help.'

So the company / union sends them for treatment, and then he gets paid, doesn't need to work, passes the 'program' and then comes back drunk again a few days later.

Rinse and repeat.

A late friend was a classic alcoholic but died young due to his smoking a couple of packs a day. As an only child, if he had his demons under control, he would have inherited a house in the Kingsway, a waterfront cottage, thriving small business with an owned building, and some investments. His dad saw where the son was headed and the estate went different ways.

His marriage (fortunately no kids) failed. Bender, she leaves, he straightens up, she comes back and he starts drinking again. She only went through the revolving door three times. I heard that she remarried and did well.

Fortunately his DUI car crashes were only property damage.

He spent his last years in a brand new subsidized apartment near the beach in Burlington. He was the first occupant and the place was a pigsty a month after he moved in. AA helped periodically but his brain was wired to self destruct.

This was back when addictions were sins not diseases. Now everything is a disease or condition and the working stiffs have to pay for the problems as they also face inflation, stupid real estate, foreign takeovers, government mismanagement etc.

There are very few people on the planet that had it made, never a problem. Somehow we got through it. If anyone can figure out the sequencing of the problem of addiction please step up. The problem is getting worse.

Nazi Germany had a solution for people that didn't fit the mold but the world didn't like it.

 

[GreyGhost]

Stole money from a missing guy (among other offences) and violated release conditions. On the upside, one of the rare occasions where they were suspended without pay from the arrest date.

Toronto cop accused of taking missing person's debit card faces additional charge

The police constable was identified as 48-year-old Boris Borissov of Toronto. He was arrested on April 11, 2022.

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[nobbie48]

Stole money from a missing guy (among other offences) and violated release conditions. On the upside, one of the rare occasions where they were suspended without pay from the arrest date.

Toronto cop accused of taking missing person's debit card faces additional charge

The police constable was identified as 48-year-old Boris Borissov of Toronto. He was arrested on April 11, 2022.

toronto.citynews.ca

What if police officers were contract hires from the union and the union paid them, being reimbursed by th municipality that needed them. If the municipality didn't want them because of their antics the union would be stuck with paying them to do nothing.

The thin blue line might get a bit annoyed seeing their dues go to a bunch of slackers.