The first blurb I heard on the news I thought they said it was an off duty officer. I could be wrong.
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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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The official narrative quickly became on-duty. No idea where the truth lies which is really really sad.
I was guestimating the distance based on the assumed skid marks from the car ending at the driveway lined with a row of conifer trees.
About 58 seconds into the video.
london.ctvnews.ca
About 58 seconds into the video.
Crash claims lives of OPP officer and bus driver
A violent crash near Woodstock has claimed the lives of an OPP officer and a school bus driver. CTV London's Marek Sutherland reports.
I updated post 5916. 450' from intersection (assuming google maps measures properly). The cop car is near the barns.I was guestimating the distance based on the assumed skid marks from the car ending at the driveway lined with a row of conifer trees.
About 58 seconds into the video.
Crash claims lives of OPP officer and bus driver
A violent crash near Woodstock has claimed the lives of an OPP officer and a school bus driver. CTV London's Marek Sutherland reports.
Don't forget the Thems against themselves.
How is "Friends don't let friends drive drunk" different than letting colleagues drive with cocky attitudes or the perceived invulnerability of a badge?
The above statements are judgmental and would be deleted in the fallen rider posts however every time the blue line fuzzys up the truth they lose credibility, hence the Defund the Police movement.
Mad Mike
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The OPP statements did not say he was on duty, nor fo the OPP say anything to support that. The OPP Police Association made that proclamation.
Also odd that SIU backed out, their mandate is any professional police incident, they don't often get involved with off duty accidents.
Dirty Frank
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Could have been his take home car so as soon as he started rolling he was clocked in.
RIP
You can't charge a dead person. what are they going to pursue?
It's still within their mandate.
"The objective of every SIU investigation is to determine whether there is evidence of criminal wrongdoing on the part of the police. It is not to determine whether the involved officer(s) may have committed some lesser offence, such as the breach of a provincial law or professional misconduct under the Code of Conduct of police officers."
The cop is dead... even if they did find evidence of a crime being committed.. what are they going to do?
An SIU investigation would be pointless.
Probably yes but maybe not. Could the cops driving have been bad enough to be considered criminal? That could affect insurance payouts. Now, even if charges were warranted, I don't think they can have a post-humous trial so without a conviction, that shouldn't count as the crash happening during a criminal act and we are back to your premise that it's a waste of time. It's not like the SIU shines light on anything anyway. They are just another layer of the cone of silence.
Dangerous operation causing death is a Criminal Code offence. What the SIU investigates not only has an effect on charges, but potentially policies.
Around 7 AM, when do shifts start? Late for their shift? Seems like an odd place to be going to a call etc. and speed must have been very high.
I'm still not convinced that speed needed to be crazy. The bus dumped a lot of its momentum into the car. 10:1 weight makes a big impact. If the cop was carrying a ton of speed, I expect vehicles would have been displaced further to the east. Given the smearing on the front of the bus, it's obvious the cop wasn't going 10 km/h but I could believe 80-100km/h. Fwiw, county planned to drop speed limit to 60 through there next month and add four way stop and blinking lights. Ridiculous response imo. Four way stop is supposed to allow people to safely turn. There is no way that is required there. That is political pandering to say they have done what they can. Coming soon "avoid use of engine brakes" signs as trucks have to completely stop at an intersection with no visible traffic on the cross street most of the time.
It seems that the change was already scheduled before this incident, because of previous collisions.
Yes but I still think making four way stops because so many people ignore existing stop signs is a terrible policy. Policing (including a red light camera which is always armed as there is no light to go green), speed humps, traffic calming chicane, etc on stop street make a hell of a lot more sense. Politicians love to change signs but rarely change the fundamental design that is the root of the issue. Adding more stop signs that will be ignored by the same drivers improves the odds but does nothing to correct the behaviour of the offending drivers.
Another steaming pile. PSA needs to change. Why are we keeping this convicted rapist on the payroll when he doesn't plan to return to policing? If you never return, they should require you to give back all the money since the last day you worked (or better yet adjudicate PSA asap and don't wait for the criminal trial). Hired in 2014, convicted of drug trafficking in 2018, convicted of rape in 2022, facing 17 additional criminal charges and still on the sunshine list. f me.
"An Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) officer found guilty of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman while recording it on his mobile phone should be sentenced to five to seven years behind bars, the Crown told court on Wednesday.
Napier pointed out Redmond remains a police officer.
She also said Redmond has not been an active officer since 2014 and a pre-sentence report indicates he does not plan to return to policing.
Court previously heard from witnesses that Redmond committed sexual assault, and filmed it, to show the victim "how easily she could be raped when she was drunk," and "to teach [her] a lesson," as first reported by the Recorder and Times newspaper.
In an emailed statement, OPP Commissioner Thomas Carrique previously said the force has been seeking Redmond's dismissal since his initial conviction of drug trafficking in 2018.
At the time, the OPP said Redmond is still before the court "facing 17 additional serious criminal charges including assault, aggravated assault, assault with a weapon and others in connection with multiple victims.""
"An Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) officer found guilty of sexually assaulting an unconscious woman while recording it on his mobile phone should be sentenced to five to seven years behind bars, the Crown told court on Wednesday.
Napier pointed out Redmond remains a police officer.
She also said Redmond has not been an active officer since 2014 and a pre-sentence report indicates he does not plan to return to policing.
Court previously heard from witnesses that Redmond committed sexual assault, and filmed it, to show the victim "how easily she could be raped when she was drunk," and "to teach [her] a lesson," as first reported by the Recorder and Times newspaper.
In an emailed statement, OPP Commissioner Thomas Carrique previously said the force has been seeking Redmond's dismissal since his initial conviction of drug trafficking in 2018.
At the time, the OPP said Redmond is still before the court "facing 17 additional serious criminal charges including assault, aggravated assault, assault with a weapon and others in connection with multiple victims.""
If you discuss the above with your MPP the first words out of his / her mouth will likely be "You have to understand...."
If I am ever convicted of assault it will likely be for punching someone in the face for saying that to me. Basically the person uttering the "You have to understand" is telling me that regardless of how wrong the situation is I have to suck it up and and accept the rip off.
Immediately after hearing "You have to understand" yell into the person's face "WHY". Why does the victim have to understand? Why not the perpetrator?
As expected, "professional courtesy" extended to drunk hit and run cop who gave a motorcyclist life-altering injuries. No custodial sentence. Expect to see this dickwad carrying a gun in the street soon. Suspended for four years with pay so far. PSA needs to change.
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As the public sets quiet, nothing will change. People really should be up in arms over these kinda issuesAs expected, "professional courtesy" extended to drunk hit and run cop who gave a motorcyclist life-altering injuries. No custodial sentence. Expect to see this dickwad carrying a gun in the street soon. Suspended for four years with pay so far. PSA needs to change.
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