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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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The Seattle protest videos were broadcast, live, on Twitch. I was watching those abuses happen as they occurred, because local film makers provided the equipment and technology to do so.
Isn't it sad that, especially in the USA, one is encouraged to carry a firearm "Just in case". This video expands that to documentation of inappropriate behavior. While a point is made, is the video scare-selling cameras?
The thing that bothers me is the portrayal of the police as goons. THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF A SUPERIOR. How'd we do with the 2010 Summit and civil rights?
Who are the superiors that are so out of touch with reality that they send out officers pumped for violence?
Why aren't they explaining ordering their murder missions?
The problem starts at the top and, in many cases, centuries ago with slavery, racism and greed.
Toronto is getting close to many of those scenarios.
Describing police as a gang is quite accurate imo. Those in the gang drank the koolaid and believe they are doing what is right/required. Punishing an underling or two does nothing to change the gang culture. The entire head of the snake must be removed and a new organization (hopefully better) dropped into the void.
The police are there to protect the status quo. That could be corporate profits, white privilege etc.
The police are stuck between the oppressed and the privileged with the privileged calling the shots and paying the police wages. It would be interesting if a citizens coalition could hire the police force and write the paycheques.
Here we can choose to support the public school system or the Catholic. What if we could do the same with the police?
The economics suck BTW.
There is a large number of people that, while not rich, are OK financially. Their income covers their needs with a bit to spare. They are content. While they may sympathize with the oppressed they are unlikely to risk everything for strangers.
Can anyone come up with a reorganization plan that guarantees a favourable outcome for 90% of the population? People are getting impatient.
And a few more of Toronto's finest. Execute a search warrant, recover stolen booze, take it home, get a $300k vacation. PSA needs to change. Adjudicate now, no waiting for criminal trial (where there is a zero percent chance of incarceration so all you are doing is guaranteeing maximum cost).
www.cp24.com
Two Toronto police officers accused of stealing alcohol seized from suspect
Two Toronto police officers have been charged after allegedly stealing alcohol they seized during an arrest last month.
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Mikedezo44
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Just went to post this you beat me to it. Once again, not the brightest bulbs in the box. I hope a couple bottles of booze was worth the embarrassment. Haven't looked, but surely both on the sunshine list...the one only 5 years into career, must've forgot about the ethics and morality training very quickly. What's the point of the 10 or however many interviews it takes to become an officer. Clearly useless.
My only question would be, "Why haven't they been charged with what would effectively be destruction of evidence?" The bottles were evidence of theft and they removed them, by committing theft.And a few more of Toronto's finest. Execute a search warrant, recover stolen booze, take it home, get a $300k vacation. PSA needs to change. Adjudicate now, no waiting for criminal trial (where there is a zero percent chance of incarceration so all you are doing is guaranteeing maximum cost).
Two Toronto police officers accused of stealing alcohol seized from suspect
Two Toronto police officers have been charged after allegedly stealing alcohol they seized during an arrest last month.
Purely how I envision it...
An ethical cop sees something and wants to do the right thing. The true goons make it clear that if he doesn't play ball, some day he will make a mistake and no one will back him. All he would have to do is lose his cool and without backup his career is over. So he looks the other way or has a memory lapse.
A guy I went to school with became a cop and when I mentioned his name to my brother who was at the time a cop, the reaction was he was a jerk rule follower. My brother broke too many rules so he and TPS parted company.
I actually met the ex classmate when he pulled me over for a unreadable rear license plate on a company pickup. It must have caught on something at a jobsite. When he finally recogized me he backed off on writing the ticket but intended to try to get the company charged.
That's a great, brand-new, idea. The coalition of citizens could vote for a leader or council that could hire the police force. Probably a good idea to break these coalitions up by geographical area so that they can make sure that local issues are being addressed. Probably a good idea to have the citizens in the coalition fund this police proportionally based on their wealth. Maybe use property value to determine how much they should pitch in?
Six months, tops before there's commercials on TV from the Scarborough coalition complaining about how they're over represented while being underfunded.
I don't know where the truth lies on this one. She definitely should not be returning to work. It's sad that one of the few officers to actually get terminated was because they spoke out and failed to maintain the "oath of secrecy". The adjudicators quote could quite easily be applied to most cops with PSA charges but they conveniently give them a demotion for a few months and then right back on the gravy train with no change in attitude or usefulness to society.
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“Over an extended period of time, she (Zarabi-Majd) levelled libelous, slanderous vulgar tweets against the TPS and parties therein. Her tweets were untrue. She accused the TPS and others of silencing women, and yet she refused to participate in interviews with the PRS investigators,” McElary-Downer wrote. “She literally stomped all over her Oath of Office and Oath of Secrecy. When a police officer demonstrates they lack the fortitude to live by their oaths, they have annulled their usefulness to society and their police service.”
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“Over an extended period of time, she (Zarabi-Majd) levelled libelous, slanderous vulgar tweets against the TPS and parties therein. Her tweets were untrue. She accused the TPS and others of silencing women, and yet she refused to participate in interviews with the PRS investigators,” McElary-Downer wrote. “She literally stomped all over her Oath of Office and Oath of Secrecy. When a police officer demonstrates they lack the fortitude to live by their oaths, they have annulled their usefulness to society and their police service.”
My first thought is that Robin D. McElary-Downer doesn't know the definition of the word "literally."I don't know where the truth lies on this one. She definitely should not be returning to work. It's sad that one of the few officers to actually get terminated was because they spoke out and failed to maintain the "oath of secrecy". The adjudicators quote could quite easily be applied to most cops with PSA charges but they conveniently give them a demotion for a few months and then right back on the gravy train with no change in attitude or usefulness to society.
Toronto, Canada and Global Breaking News – CP24
Most recent News News business news stories and video from CP24
“Over an extended period of time, she (Zarabi-Majd) levelled libelous, slanderous vulgar tweets against the TPS and parties therein. Her tweets were untrue. She accused the TPS and others of silencing women, and yet she refused to participate in interviews with the PRS investigators,” McElary-Downer wrote. “She literally stomped all over her Oath of Office and Oath of Secrecy. When a police officer demonstrates they lack the fortitude to live by their oaths, they have annulled their usefulness to society and their police service.”
My second would be that you first co-operate with the official investigation and then, if that goes nowhere, you take it public. Based on the complaint filed in 2018 it would appear that she did that, at least in some capacity.
Assault and drug dealing convictions, however, are perfectly acceptable and they retain their "useful to society" status..
I was surprised they so thoroughly documented the blue line in this ruling. Telling on bad behaviour deserves a far harsher penalty than committing criminal acts. If we fired the cops that supported this viewpoint, would we have any left?
The only reason I can see for an oath of secrecy is to cover up wrong doings.
Downer seems to think the police have a high level of trust from the community.
PTSD is only a joke if you're a moron or psychopath.
It's a "don't talk about active investigations" thing, that shouldn't be extended to someone who is dealing with on the job abuse.
Toronto officer charged with sexual assault, breach of trust, says SIU
The 14-year veteran with Toronto police’s 41 division has been suspended with pay.
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Ontario’s Police Services Act requires officers to be paid while suspended unless they are convicted of a crime.Toronto officer charged with sexual assault, breach of trust, says SIU
The 14-year veteran with Toronto police’s 41 division has been suspended with pay.
Understandable to a degree. It would be very easy to set up an honest cop and hang him out to dry with false charges, delaying the trial until he went broke.
But the axe swings both ways. If a bad cop / defendant can keep the trial delayed he's on perpetual paid vacation. Can he do side gigs while suspended?
How much would it cost to fire an employee without cause if they had 14 years on the job?
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