Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.5%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.5%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 56 50.0%
  • Total voters
    112
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Re: plate flippers in police state ontario

^ I will never go on it again unless I'm running ridiculously late or something. It's prob the most expensive in the world. Kind of like our airport...
 
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i rent the transponder just for the reduced rates, you use it how ever many times a year and itll save you money, well still costs you money but costs you less. last year i had to use it quite a bit but so this year i dont see a need to get on it more than once or twice. i think i just hate traffic to the point where im willing to pay the money to avoid it, plus when i had to commute up to newmarket from niagara a half dozen times last winter it saved me a good deal of time. but for those who are used to traffic its not too bad i guess, i cant stand it. we rarely have traffic on the hiways in niagara and anytime i get into the gta i wanna get out of my truck and punch every one in the face. so yeah the 407 is my choice for traffic heavy times, which seems to be about 15 hours a day, lol.

as for covering the plate, dont get a blocker, bury your plate a little deeper under the bike, camera might not pick up, and if you get caught play dumb and tell them you didnt know any better. etr bill comes once a month or so so you could play it off like that, or just make sure you dont wear the same jacket and helmet combo each time you use it :)
 
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Since we're on to the usual issue of "why do we have to pay", and since this forum isn't here to advise people to commit illegal acts, off this goes to the Romper Room ;)
 
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Rob MacLennan said:
Since we're on to the usual issue of "why do we have to pay", and since this forum isn't here to advise people to commit illegal acts, off this goes to the Romper Room ;)
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When i was in highschool i drove a couple really sketchy cars.. a few that wouldn't pass emission tests so i'd get trip permits. Back in the day when you could get more than one, I was actually amazed how long i could drive with no plates on my car and not get pulled over.

No rear plate = Free 407.
 
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A buddy of mine travelled the 407 every week day, for months, probably more than a year with an obstructed plate on his truck (dirty). One day, one of his co-workers cleaned off his plate for him, thinking he was doing him a favor. He drove home that day with a clean plate. A few days later he got a letter from an investigator at the 407 demanding he pay for all the trips made with the obstructed plate... They had taken measurements using hinges, a small ding, and other permanent markings on the truck in all the photos with the obstructed plate.... and compared them to the photo with the clean plate, to prove it was infact his truck.
 
Re: Police State Canada 2010 and the G20 Summit

AdRath said:
Interesting...
The police kind of proved his point. Arrested and detained for doing nothing illegal.

I feel bad for the death of a police officer but his death carries no more weight than a soldier or firefighter or anyone who dies while serving society. That funeral was a political spectacle which in my opinion dishonours the dead more than a sign.
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Agreed. And I was a bit taken aback by the "HERO" headlines in all the major Toronto bird cage liners. I always thought a hero was the guy who ran into a burning building to save a child, or the soldier that dove on a grenade to keep his comrades from getting injured, not a guy that got run over when he slipped and fell in the snow while trying to shoot someone in a chase that should have been over and done with 45 minutes prior, but for the incompetence of his superiors in coordinating the stop of one pickup truck in a heavily patrolled area.
 
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Rob MacLennan said:
Since we're on to the usual issue of "why do we have to pay", and since this forum isn't here to advise people to commit illegal acts, off this goes to the Romper Room ;)
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This is sooooo not HTA material. LOL.
 
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FullMotoJacket said:
Agreed. And I was a bit taken aback by the "HERO" headlines in all the major Toronto bird cage liners. I always thought a hero was the guy who ran into a burning building to save a child, or the soldier that dove on a grenade to keep his comrades from getting injured, not a guy that got run over when he slipped and fell in the snow while trying to shoot someone in a chase that should have been over and done with 45 minutes prior, but for the incompetence of his superiors in coordinating the stop of one pickup truck in a heavily patrolled area.
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And if he had lived, invariably, some news personality would have asked him "Do you feel like a hero"?

Dollars to donuts(no pun intended) his response would be "No, just doing my job"
 
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Pr0spect0r said:
I am thoroughly baffled by the gov't choice to sell off the 407 to MacQuarry, and I disagree with some of their billing and rate setting policy, but the theory behind the high prices is congestion management, and it is sound, although inconvenient, and damned expensive. If traffic planners had their way, everyone would be carpooling, on busses or on bikes, cutting congestion in half, and removing the need for most of our infrastructure, but that is a pipe dream and I know it. Reality says we are too much in love with our cages, picking our own radio stations, and chosing our own routes and times of travel. Incidentally, my wife and I both just quit our jobs to start at a new place we could carpool to rather than working in different towns. Now baby is on the way and I'm looking at dumping the car to reduce impacts again. Beatign congestion is a gradual evolution and its up to all teh individuals who share the road to play their part. Sadly we'd all rather pay taxes to keep 10 lanes per direction on the 401 running. That is really no cheaper than teh 407, but you don't see it in a bill in the mail, so you ignore it.
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If we had mass transit, via trains, LRT, or monorail serving the same routes as our major highways, and at a cost competitive with taking a personal vehicle, I think that there would be far more people using transit. At this point it costs me very little more than transit to drive my own vehicle into the downtown core, and that's without buying a monthly parking pass, so why would I ever use transit instead of the car I have to pay for anyway?

The "traffic planner's" solution, in Toronto, is to futz with traffic flow by actively desynchronizing lights, doing roadwork on multiple parallel roads simultaneously, suggest road tolls to get into the city, and paradoxically to increase the cost of transit. Transit must be convenient to use and cost competitive, or people won't use it. Making everything else inconvenient only angers citizens.
 
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dankyyz said:
This is sooooo not HTA material. LOL.
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Now I'm waiting for someone to post the next tutorial on how to best go about shoplifting from stores, how to defraud the cell phone companies, and how to get gas from gas stations without paying. It's all in the same realm of behaviour.
 
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FullMotoJacket said:
Agreed. And I was a bit taken aback by the "HERO" headlines in all the major Toronto bird cage liners. I always thought a hero was the guy who ran into a burning building to save a child, or the soldier that dove on a grenade to keep his comrades from getting injured, not a guy that got run over when he slipped and fell in the snow while trying to shoot someone in a chase that should have been over and done with 45 minutes prior, but for the incompetence of his superiors in coordinating the stop of one pickup truck in a heavily patrolled area.
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inreb said:
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And if he had lived, invariably, some news personality would have asked him "Do you feel like a hero"?

Dollars to donuts(no pun intended) his response would be "No, just doing my job"
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didn't another thread discuss this?

i thought the hero moniker was given for his handling of a situation a day earlier, where he de-escalated a standoff with a mentally ill person who was thought to be armed, to the point where no one was harmed.

not arguing the hero status one way or the other, but i thought this was 'clarified' elsewhere. . .
 
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afong56 said:
a mentally ill person who was thought to be armed,
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If one jumps on a grenade in a foxhole to save their buddies and it's a dud, are they still a hero?
 
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afong56 said:
didn't another thread discuss this?

i thought the hero moniker was given for his handling of a situation a day earlier, where he de-escalated a standoff with a mentally ill person who was thought to be armed, to the point where no one was harmed.

not arguing the hero status one way or the other, but i thought this was 'clarified' elsewhere. . .
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Wasn't aware of that.

The snowplow incident was discussed on "Micheal Coren Live" where it was suggested that the officers' distracting the plow, and dying in the process, might potentially have saved 5-6 (I don't know who generates those numbers) lives down the road. That would be a hero in anybodys' books, I'm lead to believe.

I hope every cop has at least one heroic moment in their career.
 
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