The defendant filed the appeal.. so that would have cost them.
The crown took the case to the SCC... I don't think the defendant had to participate.
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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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The defendant filed the appeal.. so that would have cost them.
The crown took the case to the SCC... I don't think the defendant had to participate.
That's one of the reasons why we have groups like CCLA.
Someone has to, or only one side would be presented. Even at the level of the Supreme Court of Canada, it's an adversarial system.
You are correct...
He was summonsed.. didn't appear himself.. had lawyers representing him.
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Hopefully TPS doesn't suspend all chases going forward in fear of injuring a criminal running from them.
It wasn't common knowledge to me. And I've been with someone who works in a correctional facility for three years now. We talked about it last night and I still can't believe they don't get searched at all. The union would never agree to a strip search for their people (which I am on board with), so the thinking is that doing any kind of search would be a waste of time and resources. I still feel like there has to be some kind of middle ground on the issue. At least simple search of items and pat down would prevent a "good" person smuggling something.
I'm not sure if common knowledge was the right term. Common sense might be a better term. The only people that get to come and go at prisons are staff and visitors. Visitors are monitored.
It goes against the grain but does forcing everyone in the prison to go clean, cold turkey, create a problem?
The decision is going to be made by people that have never had the problem. The righteous will rant and rave if the drug smuggling isn't stopped. The same people that object to injection sites and needle exchanges.
I'm totally anti drug but a morphine injection decades ago for a kidney stone felt so good it scared me. I then understood how a person could get hooked. I had a wife with family on the way but if not would I have gone druggie?
A bigger problem is the questionable quality of the drugs being smuggled in. Put the guards out of business by administering non lethal doses to the inmates as part of rehab.
IIRC there was a case in the USA where a strict guard was murdered by other guards because he was going to expose the mess.
Do the wardens want the public to know what really happens behind the big grey walls?
It's far deeper than busting a few guards.
Visitors are subject to search. If employees are not, and there are drugs within the institution, then it's pretty obvious where they are coming from.
I've always wondered about the desire to run from police, on a bike. Sure, it should be fairly easy to evade police on a bike if you have any idea what you're actually doing, but so many riders have an inflated opinion of their skill. Watching police chase videos, involving motorcycles, almost always makes me cringe at the complete lack of any real skill. You also have to consider that when you run, the reason for running had better be worth your life. You might just be paying with it.Toronto, Canada & Global Breaking News – CP24
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My brother was a long time TO motorcycle cop. After motorcycle cop, he went to communications.
He tells me that without HIGHLY extenuating circumstance... like HUGE danger to the public, they won't chase a motorcycle. Too many times the budding Rossi turns the bike into a baby killing missile.
... and cops need permission from the communications sergeant to chase. He tells the story of chasing some guy on the 427, telling the sergeant he was travelling at 110kph, when he lost grip of the microphone, which is now blowing in the wind behind him... at 165kph. He got the guy when he crashed into a guard rail. No hard feelings though, my brother bought the crashed bike off the guy.
If you're getting chased by the helicopter, head for the airport. The heli can't get clearance to enter the airport air space, and the airport is federal land, so it's RCMP territory.
If you're getting chased by a car, DASH and hide.
He tells me that without HIGHLY extenuating circumstance... like HUGE danger to the public, they won't chase a motorcycle. Too many times the budding Rossi turns the bike into a baby killing missile.
... and cops need permission from the communications sergeant to chase. He tells the story of chasing some guy on the 427, telling the sergeant he was travelling at 110kph, when he lost grip of the microphone, which is now blowing in the wind behind him... at 165kph. He got the guy when he crashed into a guard rail. No hard feelings though, my brother bought the crashed bike off the guy.
If you're getting chased by the helicopter, head for the airport. The heli can't get clearance to enter the airport air space, and the airport is federal land, so it's RCMP territory.
If you're getting chased by a car, DASH and hide.
Airport Clearance for the helicopter is almost trivial these days. Unless you can hang out under the active approach/departure path, they will be on you like white on rice.
Not to mention that you've just entered an area that has an additional enforcement group, a great deal of surveillance, and limited routes in and out.
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Didn't a member a couple of years ago, go through hell because of an alleged police chase. He got charged with dangerous driving but the police had lost sight of the original bike and since his was similar, assumptions were made.
Being a criminal charge, one has to spend five figures to get off or wear the charge for the rest of your life.
Watch the Arkansas State Police ones. They love pit maneuvers, swearing and pointing guns.
I can't remember specifically which department, but the incident I have in mind occurred in one of the jurisdictions around The Dragon. Cop was chasing a bike and decided it would be a good idea to use the side of his cruiser to bounce the rider into a guardrail. Rider died.
In Canada, a cop would be crimminally charged if he intentionally knocked a fleeing biker.
In Britain they changed laws so a copper CAN run you down to stop you.
There is youtube video of (IIRC) a Spanish cop that just PUNTS a guy to the moon, the guy flew about 30ft... and he died. He was a bank robber.
In Britain they changed laws so a copper CAN run you down to stop you.
There is youtube video of (IIRC) a Spanish cop that just PUNTS a guy to the moon, the guy flew about 30ft... and he died. He was a bank robber.
I remember, back in the day, reading an article about how Tokyo Police were trying to find a way to deal with the Bosozoku (motorcycle gangs). They were experimenting with a rocket propelled net that ran right across the road and would pop up like a net wall, in front of them.
But they can shoot a kid on a streetcar and only get 2 years.
Some years ago... I used to run from the police. I can't remember how many times... but I'd guess 50-75 times. We would run for little to no reason.. just to avoid tickets or the hassle of being pulled over.
It was a little unnerving the first couple times.. but then.. it was easy.
I will say this... anyone that thinks they won't knock you off for bike.. is kidding themselves. I promise you.. you get the right cops .. in the right situation.. and they will try hard!!
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