I’m just shocked that after so much firing only 2 bullets struck the suspect.
The rest were other officers and bystanders shot by the cops.
Idiots with guns.
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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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The rest were other officers and bystanders shot by the cops.
Idiots with guns.
Idiots with guns are right. For the amount of money that goes into the police force, they get a laughable amount of hands-on firearms training and practice. I know some jurisdictions very few will ever touch theirs but for the big cities you'd think they would have a better training, testing and refresher program.
Mikedezo44
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Painful to watch, mind blowing the suspect was only shot twice and survived that. So much crossfire going on, everyone wanted to join in.
I've been waffling about this. On one side there's the concept of letting someone assault you when you could have taken defensive life threatening action and the other side, taking or altering a life.
I like the self defense concept but don't want to go Yankee.
By laying murder charges it means a five figure legal cost. There is no free kill.
It makes the defender think before he pulls the trigger, hopefully long before the event occurs.
I don't think that would make any difference no one thinks of the cost or the sentence before doing something in the heat of the moment.
Sent from the future
In fact if someone actually thinks about it, before performing the act, then it's no longer "in the heat of the moment" but rather premeditated.
Reminds me of this little gem, but the Buffalo situation was even worse. The officer in Las Vegas received a national commendation, if you can believe it.
Las Vegas officer in high-speed chase blasts bullets at suspect's moving vehicle
Stunning bodycam video shows the officer firing his gun through his own windshield to try and stop a couple of murder suspects.
abc13.com
Say a $50,000 legal cost, shoot, pay it and live. Don't shoot and the $50K becomes part of your estate. If the perp is likely to kill a loved one, is your wife or kid worth $50 K alive?
Pay the lawyer or the undertaker.
I strongly agree with not wanting to become more like the US.
I am good with them laying the charges... by doing so, you ensure there are lots of eyes and legal knowledge looking at the incident... and I think that's a good idea.
If the incident is a good case of self defense.. the victim won't have any trouble raising funds from the public.
Dirty Frank
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Now here is a WTF story
windsorstar.com
Working on clarity and transparency but missed the impound.
Windsor police deputy chief charged with stunt driving
Acting Deputy Chief of Operations Jason Crowley has been issued a summons for stunt driving, Windsor Police Services revealed in a statement released on Saturday.
windsorstar.com
Working on clarity and transparency but missed the impound.
And the license suspension.
This is why we need bodycam footage.
I don't understand why he told them he was gay though.... what does that have to do with anything. So strange.
I will say, if a whole bunch of cops come jumping out of cars pointing guns at me, I am getting my ass on the ground with my hands on my head. We can sort s**t out later.
This is the best course of action, however, you should not be made to give up your Charter Rights in order to placate a police officer.
I'm not sure about Canada but US videos show police using hostile detaining even when the subject is peaceful and compliant. I know it's a tough call and there is armchair quarterbacking going on but just as construction workers accept some risks, so must police. Dead is dead, bullet or fall.
Quality of policing, in the US, tends to have a much broader range than it does in Canada. We have Provincial, as well as Federal standards. In the US it can go city by city. Cross the line from city to county, and suddenly you might find yourself spread across the hood of your car. Also, in the US, courts have determined that police have no real duty to follow the most common motto on the doors of their patrol cars, "To Protect and Serve."
Do the Police Have an Obligation to Protect You? - FindLaw
FindLaw examines what, if any, legal obligations police have to protect the public that they "protect and serve."
www.findlaw.com
justride
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‘The optics are terrible’: Toronto police criticized over senior officer’s role as head of internal discipline
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‘The optics are terrible’: Toronto police criticized over senior officer’s role as head of internal discipline
The Toronto Police Service’s commitment to repairing its relationship with the city’s Black communities is being questioned over the appointment of a senior officer to lead internal investigations despite a career that includes the on-duty shooting deaths of two Black men.
good grief!
DownUnder
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‘The optics are terrible’: Toronto police criticized over senior officer’s role as head of internal discipline
‘The optics are terrible’: Toronto police criticized over senior officer’s role as head of internal discipline
The Toronto Police Service’s commitment to repairing its relationship with the city’s Black communities is being questioned over the appointment of a senior officer to lead internal investigations despite a career that includes the on-duty shooting deaths of two Black men.www.thestar.com
good grief!
I'd like to know the details of those shootings before casting judgement. If they were genuinely necessary then he's probably in a good position to judge others and what they do in high stress situations.
The good, the bad, the ugly...and the incompetent...
www.thestar.com
Absolutely ridiculous that a missing signature lets a driver get off without a charge in killing a young man. Sickening.
‘That’s what my son’s life is worth?’ GTA careless driving case falls apart over officer’s missing signature
“A signature? A signature, your honour?” father Alen Yekmalian said in court as the case fell apart.
www.thestar.com
Absolutely ridiculous that a missing signature lets a driver get off without a charge in killing a young man. Sickening.
Dirty Frank
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And yet unless you hired an ex cop to be your advocate in PON court the JP would likely ask the crown for the pertain info and amend it there in frount of you and find you guilty.The good, the bad, the ugly...and the incompetent...
‘That’s what my son’s life is worth?’ GTA careless driving case falls apart over officer’s missing signature
“A signature? A signature, your honour?” father Alen Yekmalian said in court as the case fell apart.
Absolutely ridiculous that a missing signature lets a driver get off without a charge in killing a young man. Sickening.
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