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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%
  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%
  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%

  • Total voters
    111
Well frack. I am not the biggest fan of most officers, but none of them deserve this. Condolences to Constable Northrups friends and family.


A Toronto police officer has died after being intentionally struck by a vehicle near City Hall overnight, Chief James Ramer has confirmed.

“It is with profound sadness that I confirm the death of Const. Jeffrey Northrup of 52 Division,” Ramer said while providing an update on the situation Friday morning.

Ramer said Northrup died while responding to a call in the parking garage located underneath City Hall, near Queen and Bay streets, just after midnight.

He said the incident was "deliberate and intentional." The Homicide unit has been called in to investigate.

One suspect is in custody, police said.
 
Lot's of really shady police work around the fatal o'leary boat crash.

In court today they said she blew an alert range (between 0.05 and 0.099) on a screening breathalyzer but they appear to have made no attempt to follow that up with a proper measurement to determine where in the range she was. As with most rich DUI, she was not drinking before the crash, she was drinking after the crash and before testing. That is such crap. Courts need to clean that up. If you blow over, that should be guilty, far too many people exploit that hole (notably Michael Bryant).

 
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The law changed in 2018 I believe to be "within 2 hours of driving." But I also think it was being challenged.

So IMO she should have been charged accordingly.
 
The law changed in 2018 I believe to be "within 2 hours of driving." But I also think it was being challenged.

So IMO she should have been charged accordingly.
By taking off and immediately bringing lawyers into it, she probably beat the changed law by exceeding the two hour limit. Still very suspicious that there was no calibrated/official BAC test at any point in a fatal crash involving a driver who was drinking. (If you believe that she was the driver and not her husband who was far more drunk).
 
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Lot's of really shady police work around the fatal o'leary boat crash.

In court today they said she blew an alert range (between 0.05 and 0.99) on a screening breathalyzer but they appear to have made no attempt to follow that up with a proper measurement to determine where in the range she was. As with most rich DUI, she was not drinking before the crash, she was drinking after the crash and before testing. That is such crap. Courts need to clean that up. If you blow over, that should be guilty, far too many people exploit that hole (notably Michael Bryant).

Remember the RCMP officer who hit a rider, in BC, then ran home and started drinking?
 
Remember the RCMP officer who hit a rider, in BC, then ran home and started drinking?
Very common. I also remember one of an off duty officer crashing through someones yard, taking out their fence and leaving the scene of the crime to go home to have a couple of drinks... They know leaving the scene, or even the vehicle (if possible) is their best shot at beating the DUI charge. Can walk a kilometer down the street and say they drank 5 beers in the time that they left their vehicle.
 
By taking off and immediately bringing lawyers into it, she probably beat the changed law by exceeding the two hour limit. Still very suspicious that there was no calibrated/official BAC test at any point in a fatal crash involving a driver who was drinking. (If you believe that she was the driver and not her husband who was far more drunk).

The article you linked doesn't mention it.. but the other cop testified that a half gone drink was sitting on the table beside her when they arrived...

It's pretty common to see her driving their boats... not that it means she was driving when it happened.

Also.. Keep in mind that this crash happened in boats... that can sink. I would expect them to run for shore asap for that reason... as both boats did... The other boat ran for the marina.. The O'leary boat ran to their dock which may have been the closest dock to the crash.
 
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The article you linked doesn't mention it.. but the other cop testified that a half gone drink was sitting on the table beside her when they arrived...
It's pretty common to see her driving their boats... not that it means she was driving when it happened.
I am sure she did have a drink after the crash. I am very very suspicious about her claim of no drinks before. If I get in a traumatic event, I don't immediately rush for the bottle. If that was my personality, there would be a very high chance that the post crash drink wouldn't have been my first when I was hanging out with friends at the cottage for the day. If she claims that half a drink got her BAC above 0.05, again, wtf were the police doing as it sure as hell wasn't policing.

I have no idea if she was driving or not. The only people that know for sure are the people in that boat. I am sure they called a lawyer and discussed the best way forward. That way may or may not have had much to do with the reality of what actually happened. If he was actually drunk and driving, a conviction and huge civil settlement is almost guaranteed. With her lower BAC, they have a path to fight to maintain their lifestyle.
 
I am sure she did have a drink after the crash. I am very very suspicious about her claim of no drinks before. If I get in a traumatic event, I don't immediately rush for the bottle. If that was my personality, there would be a very high chance that the post crash drink wouldn't have been my first when I was hanging out with friends at the cottage for the day. If she claims that half a drink got her BAC above 0.05, again, wtf were the police doing as it sure as hell wasn't policing.

I have no idea if she was driving or not. The only people that know for sure are the people in that boat. I am sure they called a lawyer and discussed the best way forward. That way may or may not have had much to do with the reality of what actually happened. If he was actually drunk and driving, a conviction and huge civil settlement is almost guaranteed. With her lower BAC, they have a path to fight to maintain their lifestyle.

As huge a settlement as it could be... It won't be enough to affect their lifestyle... of either boat operator.
 
Lot's of really shady police work around the fatal o'leary boat crash.

In court today they said she blew an alert range (between 0.05 and 0.99) on a screening breathalyzer but they appear to have made no attempt to follow that up with a proper measurement to determine where in the range she was. As with most rich DUI, she was not drinking before the crash, she was drinking after the crash and before testing. That is such crap. Courts need to clean that up. If you blow over, that should be guilty, far too many people exploit that hole (notably Michael Bryant).

Her lawyers really dropped the ball on this one, if they were to look into that constables previous testimony on all her impaired operation cases she uniformly testifies that the accused has glassy eyes and dilated pupils.
Just what she was taught to say back when she was in training
 
Her lawyers really dropped the ball on this one, if they were to look into that constables previous testimony on all her impaired operation cases she uniformly testifies that the accused has glassy eyes and dilated pupils.
Just what she was taught to say back when she was in training
The system is setup to get convictions. Truth or convicting the correct person barely factors in.
 
Her lawyers really dropped the ball on this one, if they were to look into that constables previous testimony on all her impaired operation cases she uniformly testifies that the accused has glassy eyes and dilated pupils.
Just what she was taught to say back when she was in training
How So?
He covered it in his cross... putting more than enough reasonable doubt to what she testified.
 
How So?
He covered it in his cross... putting more than enough reasonable doubt to what she testified.
The paramedic testimony was that she was not showing any signs of impairment whoever the cops testimony was that she was showing the exact same signs of impairment that virtually every single one of the subjects that she has charged with impaired operation in her career.
One could say that those are the typical signs of impairment but if the defense were to pull transcripts of the cops previous cases with identical testimony it could raise some doubt.
 
I would think if the paramedic said no signs of impairment this could easily get thrown out. It’s possible they knew someone, just saying


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Someone in the media had the guts to come out with this:


Hope it gets public thinking...

Ha...Will it get them thinking? yes sure, but no one will do anything about it. Get a petition signed with 100,000 signatures against this and it still won't do a thing. Guilty until proven innocent in full form. All this new 2 week impound instead of 1 week impound does is make more money for the mafia run tow yards. At their extortion rates they are the only ones smiling about this. How could they not be. Why doesn't the city have their own impound yard to make revenue from these criminal speeders?
 

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