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Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....

Who was in the wrong?

  • Cop

    Votes: 23 20.7%

  • Dude who got shot

    Votes: 33 29.7%

  • I like turtles

    Votes: 55 49.5%
  • Total voters
    111
I see on the news lots of rats jumping a sinking ship now they aren't able to force a lot of there tyranny
 
Another one getting suspended WITH PAY! So, how long does this case go on, and on, and on for? Maybe he can rack up another $800K in suspension pay to go with his "inheritance"? I thought there was talk of changing that clause in the Police Act? I suppose with no one in charge of the force or the union soon, changes like that are not even on the horizon at this point.
 
Unsurprisingly "several" more Toronto police have been suspended (with pay) for their role in tow truck corruption. The force is unwilling to provide the number of officers involved. They keep asking for people to trust them while continuing to pile bricks higher on the blue wall.

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GreyGhost said:
Unsurprisingly "several" more Toronto police have been suspended (with pay) for their role in tow truck corruption. The force is unwilling to provide the number of officers involved. They keep asking for people to trust them while continuing to pile bricks higher on the blue wall.

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Organized crime is involved; bad cops are involved.
 
Stinking turds like this hopefully result in rapid changes to the police services act. Officer that shot and killed someone on a mental health call declines to provide notes or an interview (as is allowed currently by PSA). F that. Cooperate or you're done as a cop. I understand not wanting to provide evidence that gets you a murder conviction, but you will never be allowed to be in that position again. Alternatively provide full cooperation and hopefully the SIU determines it was a justifiable shooting.

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SIU says officer in fatal shooting of Ejaz Choudry declines interview

The province’s Special Investigations Unit says the report into the fatal shooting of Ejaz Ahmed Choudry is “substantially completed” but they are still waiting to interview the victim’s family. In an updated released on Thursday, the SIU says the subject officer in the case has declined an...
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Well, it's time for body cameras for all police officers. Should be fired if they do a call without one. Tired of the wall of silence from these guys every time they shoot or beat someone to death.
 
Roadghost said:
Well, it's time for body cameras for all police officers. Should be fired if they do a call without one. Tired of the wall of silence from these guys every time they shoot or beat someone to death.
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Problem is they are allowed to switch them off. Cameras are automatically activated but can be manually disabled and are routinely disabled as officers don't want anything that can provide reasonable doubt. Courts don't seem to care as there are no laws requiring cameras be switched on, it seems they are for the convenience of police and not the protection of the public.

For full transparency and protection of the public, provincial laws need to mandate body and cruiser cameras should be always on, always streaming and not have a user disable function.
 
Mad Mike said:
For full transparency and protection of the public, provincial laws need to mandate body and cruiser cameras should be always on, always streaming and not have a user disable function.
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Their union would flip out!
 
Allistonfjr said:
Their union would flip out!
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And if they did, that is a very strong argument for why the union should be at the top of the list of cuts. Public servants exist to serve the public not to spend freely and protect every single dirtbag contained within while screwing the public every chance they get.
 
GreyGhost said:
And if they did, that is a very strong argument for why the union should be at the top of the list of cuts. Public servants exist to serve the public not to spend freely and protect every single dirtbag contained within while screwing the public every chance they get.
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Oh, I like the way you think! :LOL:
 
GreyGhost said:
And if they did, that is a very strong argument for why the union should be at the top of the list of cuts. Public servants exist to serve the public not to spend freely and protect every single dirtbag contained within while screwing the public every chance they get.
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I think PSUs should be made obsolete. De-unionizing would remove a lot of useless costs, improve accountability and possibly correct the sometimes outrageous differential in pay between private and public sector workers doing the same work.
 
Mad Mike said:
I think PSUs should be made obsolete. De-unionizing would remove a lot of useless costs, improve accountability and possibly correct the sometimes outrageous differential in pay between private and public sector workers doing the same work.
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As an initial cut, it would be a good idea to lock public sector median total compensation to 5 to 10% less than private sector median total comp (you get stability from public sector that can never be guaranteed by private sector). If the public sector wants to earn more, they need to work hard to increase private sector comp. Win win.
 
Well, from 30 years in the public sector and as a member of a large PSU... I see the union as a necessary evil.

Often it's the union that is the only thing looking out for the publics interest. The province would cut EVERYTHING we take for granted to the bone and then, well... We'd be complaining about that.
It's been my experience that the union(s), however corrupt and slimy they are prevent the gov't from doing a lot of harm.
Keep in mind that those "in charge" within the public sector from say middle management up are for the most part incompetent.

As far as pay/compensation goes in the PS... It's not always cracked up to be. Many jobs, especially those that require a skill (trades) or some specialized education/training pay far more in the private sector.
 
Hack said:
Well, from 30 years in the public sector and as a member of a large PSU... I see the union as a necessary evil.

Often it's the union that is the only thing looking out for the publics interest. The province would cut EVERYTHING we take for granted to the bone and then, well... We'd be complaining about that.
It's been my experience that the union(s), however corrupt and slimy they are prevent the gov't from doing a lot of harm.
Keep in mind that those "in charge" within the public sector from say middle management up are for the most part incompetent.

As far as pay/compensation goes in the PS... It's not always cracked up to be. Many jobs, especially those that require a skill (trades) or some specialized education/training pay far more in the private sector.
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I'm ok with the union in theory. Maybe tie union exec compensation in the public sector unions to the same formula as public sector employees. You fight differently when you aren't making many hundreds of thousands and every person in the union drives up your take home pay. I want good people in and the bad people out asap.

I'm ok with whacking any incompetent staff, union, management, wherever. Just because you work for public sector should not allow you to suck at your job with impunity.

Yes, some public sector jobs are paid less, but on average, they pay way too much. 30% of federal public sector employees got sent home with full pay to not work during this mess. Teachers got full pay to work less than one day per week. Private sector did the right thing (in general) and punted people that were unable to work to CERB. That would have kept the playing field level and allowed for a reasonably decent accounting of the covid impact instead of looking under 500 rocks for where the public sector paid people to not work under various guises.
 
It's not as if it's the "union" that causes the stuff that non union people hate/are jealous of.

Everything is NEGOTIATED.

All the gov't needs to to is negotiate deals that will please the non-union public.
Trouble is... Then they won't find anyone willing to work for the **** pay under ******** conditions.

I leave it with this... All you get/are entitled to in a gov't/public sector job is your pay and negotiated benefits. That's it.
In exchange you "may" have better job security than in the private sector, but... There are no performance bonuses, no office parties paid for by the company and certainly no advancement based on merit.

It's a trade off people decide to make.
 
Hack said:
As far as pay/compensation goes in the PS... It's not always cracked up to be. Many jobs, especially those that require a skill (trades) or some specialized education/training pay far more in the private sector.
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Not sure how this is relevant. However, I'm in the trades and I can say, without any hesitation, that I work an astounding amount more hours to earn that amount, than any police officer. Not to mention the total years worked.
 
Allistonfjr said:
Not sure how this is relevant. However, I'm in the trades and I can say, without any hesitation, that I work an astounding amount more hours to earn that amount, than any police officer. Not to mention the total years worked.
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You can look up the pay scales for plumbers, electricians, carpenters etc. in the public sector. Compare apples to apples.

For those who believe public sector workers need to be brought down a few notches... Why not bring "up" the private sector instead?
Or... do they prefer the "race to the bottom" ideology..?
 
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