Law Enforcement - The Good, The Bad, The Ugly.....
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dr_sarcasm
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You know, there are times I'm certain that elements of the US population are dragging down the global IQ average.
Jesus, can't believe who they give badges and guns to these days...
You know, there are times I'm certain that elements of the US population are dragging down the global IQ average.
Jesus, can't believe who they give badges and guns to these days...
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Well given that they can no longer administer corporal punishment in most American schools and kids are pushing the limits more and more as a result, how do you deal with a kid who assaults the principle, tears stuff off the walls, and tries to break multiple items in the classroom? Ridiculous constraints that are placed on educators, combined with zero tolerance policies enacted in response, have brought the discussion to this point.
Well given that they can no longer administer corporal punishment in most American schools and kids are pushing the limits more and more as a result, how do you deal with a kid who assaults the principle, tears stuff off the walls, and tries to break multiple items in the classroom? Ridiculous constraints that are placed on educators, combined with zero tolerance policies enacted in response, have brought the discussion to this point.
Shaman
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You're right, Rob. Just slap the kid around and throw the cuffs on them.
You're right, Rob. Just slap the kid around and throw the cuffs on them.
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They didn't slap the kid around, though they did put her in cuffs.
Then again the definition of "slap the kid around" has changed quite a bit, over the years. A great number of kids would benefit from their parents learning a little old school corporal discipline.
They didn't slap the kid around, though they did put her in cuffs.
Then again the definition of "slap the kid around" has changed quite a bit, over the years. A great number of kids would benefit from their parents learning a little old school corporal discipline.
dr_sarcasm
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Rob, I enjoy reading your posts - always articulated well, thoughts explained in a succinct manner, and for the most part you're pretty unbiased. But...
This was a 6 year old child.
All those educators needed to do was to put the child in a room, and call her parents. Simple. If they are unable to control and mold the mind of a 6 year old, I would suggest they perhaps made a wrong career choice. The whole point of being an authority figure is to command authority and to assert said authority in a manner that is tempered by common sense (e.g. "How much risk does a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL pose to all these adults and the dudes with the bullet proof vests and guns and mace and nightsticks and tasers..."). This was just a comedy of errors, perpetuated by people who should perhaps take refresher courses on how to deal with children...
I'm with you on the corporal punishment bit - I bet you'd see a lot of more respectful brats.
P.S. You could have put her in the back of the police car, sans cuffs and let her finish off her tantrum there, while waiting for her parents (all in my opinion, of course).
Rob, I enjoy reading your posts - always articulated well, thoughts explained in a succinct manner, and for the most part you're pretty unbiased. But...
This was a 6 year old child.
All those educators needed to do was to put the child in a room, and call her parents. Simple. If they are unable to control and mold the mind of a 6 year old, I would suggest they perhaps made a wrong career choice. The whole point of being an authority figure is to command authority and to assert said authority in a manner that is tempered by common sense (e.g. "How much risk does a SIX YEAR OLD GIRL pose to all these adults and the dudes with the bullet proof vests and guns and mace and nightsticks and tasers..."). This was just a comedy of errors, perpetuated by people who should perhaps take refresher courses on how to deal with children...
I'm with you on the corporal punishment bit - I bet you'd see a lot of more respectful brats.
P.S. You could have put her in the back of the police car, sans cuffs and let her finish off her tantrum there, while waiting for her parents (all in my opinion, of course).
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Yes, handcuffing a 6 year old child is an over reaction. It should not be considered in a vacuum, however, as it is a culmination of a long series of over reactions. That it would eventually come to this should be no surprise, to anyone.
*EDIT* This version of the story has a bit more detail, rather than just being comprised of a rant by a talking head.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/6-old-girl-handcuffed-police-over-tantrum-001249882.html
Yes, handcuffing a 6 year old child is an over reaction. It should not be considered in a vacuum, however, as it is a culmination of a long series of over reactions. That it would eventually come to this should be no surprise, to anyone.
*EDIT* This version of the story has a bit more detail, rather than just being comprised of a rant by a talking head.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/6-old-girl-handcuffed-police-over-tantrum-001249882.html
ABadjusterrider_5
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To put it lightly, I am happy that I checked out of high school when i did. Kids are getting out of control. Parents do nothing to control them, teachers CAN'T control because of the constraints put on them. Kids think they can get away with anything by hiding behind the laws, or whatever. People are afraid of being sue'd. Things are only getting worse and worse.
There's nothing wrong with a kid misbehvaing getting a slap in the back of the head or a shot in the ***. They need to learn respect. They need to understand authority and they need to learn to control their emotions.
To put it lightly, I am happy that I checked out of high school when i did. Kids are getting out of control. Parents do nothing to control them, teachers CAN'T control because of the constraints put on them. Kids think they can get away with anything by hiding behind the laws, or whatever. People are afraid of being sue'd. Things are only getting worse and worse.
There's nothing wrong with a kid misbehvaing getting a slap in the back of the head or a shot in the ***. They need to learn respect. They need to understand authority and they need to learn to control their emotions.
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there is a reason why the kids acting out, find that problem and then find the fix.
there is a reason why the kids acting out, find that problem and then find the fix.
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The problem is parents, who are too narcissistic to spend any time being parents.
And society as a whole.
The problem is parents, who are too narcissistic to spend any time being parents.
And society as a whole.
OpenGambit
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Lets be realistic about a parent's ability to control a 6 year old's tantrum when they aren't around.
I mean I am sure some of us had great parents and I am sure we still had tantrums when we were kids.
6 year olds aren't complete products.
That being said, I actually don't see a problem with a kid seeing a cop as a way to make them behave, but handcuffs are excessive.
Lets be realistic about a parent's ability to control a 6 year old's tantrum when they aren't around.
I mean I am sure some of us had great parents and I am sure we still had tantrums when we were kids.
6 year olds aren't complete products.
That being said, I actually don't see a problem with a kid seeing a cop as a way to make them behave, but handcuffs are excessive.
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I don't think you can blame parents for the way kids act. Especially when parents are working hard and long to pay mortgages and save education funds for their children. If you want to blame parents, blame the parents of the sociopaths who run wall street.
I don't think you can blame parents for the way kids act. Especially when parents are working hard and long to pay mortgages and save education funds for their children. If you want to blame parents, blame the parents of the sociopaths who run wall street.
dr_sarcasm
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My parents were like the ones you describe above - yet they found time to instill morals, ethics and a sense of respect in me and my siblings. I think the "working hard" angle is nothing but a cop out/excuse.
Uh...what?
My parents were like the ones you describe above - yet they found time to instill morals, ethics and a sense of respect in me and my siblings. I think the "working hard" angle is nothing but a cop out/excuse.
Uh...what?
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Oddly enough many of those narcissists are parents too, teaching their children to be scaled-down models of themselves.
Oddly enough many of those narcissists are parents too, teaching their children to be scaled-down models of themselves.
OpenGambit
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I don't see it as the individual's fault, I see it as thats the way the system is set up.
i mean. you give a guy a bunch of money that isn't his and say "ok gamble this anywhere you want, if you win you get a bonus, if you lose, nothing happens"...
I don't see it as the individual's fault, I see it as thats the way the system is set up.
i mean. you give a guy a bunch of money that isn't his and say "ok gamble this anywhere you want, if you win you get a bonus, if you lose, nothing happens"...
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"...and if you lose real bad, you might have to find a job with another trading company, possibly with a nice salary increase."
"...and if you lose real bad, you might have to find a job with another trading company, possibly with a nice salary increase."
Shaman
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Remember, police are the "good guys," full of the milk of human kindness, decency, honesty and morality. Or not.
http://www.dominionpaper.ca/articles/4415
and
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/10-disgusting-examples-of-very-young.html
It's a quick news day.
Remember, police are the "good guys," full of the milk of human kindness, decency, honesty and morality. Or not.
http://www.dominionpaper.ca/articles/4415
and
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/04/10-disgusting-examples-of-very-young.html
It's a quick news day.
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Shaman
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