Israel seems to remove token settlements for the media while building or extending others. Sorry but apartheid in South Africa ****** me off and apartheid in Israel with respect to Palestinians pisses me off. If Israel were truly a democracy then the right of return of Palestinian refugees would not continually be off the table. As for playing the anti-Semite card every time someone criticizes Israeli government policies that often contravene UN resolutions then that's just weak. Accept that a democracy doesn't imprison an entire set of people within some arbitrary borders and limit their movements and right to economic self determination. Before there's the predictable spouting off about things yes I have been to Israel and my first couple of girlfriends were Jewish. What's really being discussed here is hypocrisy and just plain fairness, after all if we bombed the only country in the Middle East who acquired nuclear weapons against international treaties then we all know where those bombs would be landing.
Iran - What's the deal? Bomb or not?
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They play that card when there are no points to the argument. That's the reason I didn't try to put logic in this thread
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Shaman
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Does this look like Iran's president hates Jews? Hating Israel's government is not the same thing.
[video=youtube;GNOLoXd2dhg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNOLoXd2dhg[/video]
This broadcast was banned in several countries including the U.S. Being able to see this kind of video on Youtube is why we can't let governments censor the Internet.
[video=youtube;GNOLoXd2dhg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNOLoXd2dhg[/video]
This broadcast was banned in several countries including the U.S. Being able to see this kind of video on Youtube is why we can't let governments censor the Internet.
cbcanada
Banned
THIS HERE SONG PRETTY MUCH SAYS IT ALL PILGRIMS!
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'til their judgement day comes
Yeah!
Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
oh lord yeah!
warpigs, by black sabbath
Generals gathered in their masses
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh lord yeah!
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role to the poor
Time will tell on their power minds
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess
Wait 'til their judgement day comes
Yeah!
Now in darkness world stops turning
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more war pigs have the power
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pig's crawling
Begging mercy for their sins
Satan laughing spreads his wings
oh lord yeah!
warpigs, by black sabbath
PSY
Banned
@palmpalm care to interject here and enlighten the rest of us or will you call these guys Antisemitic too.
If people took the time to actually listen to what he says, you will hear that he is not a crazy person as the media likes to tell people and have them believe.
It's easy to call someone crazy to relegate them.
You now who was called crazy and a traitor to his country too.
We all know and saw how that ended for him. I am not comparing the two before someone tries to derail this thread.
I am merely stating both were called crazy.
That famous saying that the media keeps repeating that Ahmadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth is not true.
It was misinterpreted and you can hear it for yourself. From what I understand he said wipe the Government of Israel off the map which is the same thing they say about him. I can understand that kinda "talk" because both sides are being egged on and are figure heads of their extreme Religious groups.
If the man hates Jews so much, uhm it would be really easy to kill the thousands of Jews living in Iran or at the least just put all their stuff on trucks and deport them. Just pack them up and ship them out or make their lives miserable much like what seems to be occurring with what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
It is sad that in this day and age we continue these wars over dirt/sand that in the end nobody will ever really own.
It's all about greed and money with religion being used as the veil to control and manipulate the masses.
Does anyone know if Jews and Arabs are brothers? They seem to be the same people. Their religious requirements down to food preparations are the similar if not the same.
Thanks for keeping things civil and informative.
OpenGambit
Banned
@palmpalm care to interject here and enlighten the rest of us or will you call these guys Antisemitic too.
If people took the time to actually listen to what he says, you will hear that he is not a crazy person as the media likes to tell people and have them believe.
It's easy to call someone crazy to relegate them.
You now who was called crazy and a traitor to his country too.
We all know and saw how that ended for him. I am not comparing the two before someone tries to derail this thread.
I am merely stating both were called crazy.
That famous saying that the media keeps repeating that Ahmadinejad wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth is not true.
It was misinterpreted and you can hear it for yourself. From what I understand he said wipe the Government of Israel off the map which is the same thing they say about him. I can understand that kinda "talk" because both sides are being egged on and are figure heads of their extreme Religious groups.
If the man hates Jews so much, uhm it would be really easy to kill the thousands of Jews living in Iran or at the least just put all their stuff on trucks and deport them. Just pack them up and ship them out or make their lives miserable much like what seems to be occurring with what Israel is doing to the Palestinians.
It is sad that in this day and age we continue these wars over dirt/sand that in the end nobody will ever really own.
It's all about greed and money with religion being used as the veil to control and manipulate the masses.
Does anyone know if Jews and Arabs are brothers? They seem to be the same people. Their religious requirements down to food preparations are the similar if not the same.
Thanks for keeping things civil and informative.
... I am not gonna say you are like hitler, but I am going to just put both of you in the same sentence.
I already commented on this group. They have been essentially excommunicated by the majority of Jewish authorities.
And since you brought up MLK Jr.: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Quote/king.html "Don't talk like that. When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism." [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_an_Anti-Zionist_Friend
"according to Sundquist, King "paid frequent tribute to Jewish support for black rights, defended Israel's right to exist, supported the Jewish state during the Six Day War (while calling for a negotiated settlement in keeping with his advocacy of nonviolence), and on more than one occasion opposed the [/URL]anti-Zionism then taking increasing hold in the Black Power movement.""
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ashkan
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Hahaha palmpalm, im sorry but your lies dont work in the time of internet and mass data sharing. The world is waking up more and more to the Israeli massacre and land stealing of the Palestinians. You can post links and i can post 10 times more. Youre telling us its night as we stare at the sun. Even if we take the UN resolution of 48 as fair (which it isnt), everything Israel has done beyond that is ILLEGAL by INTERNATIONAL LAW and every square meter of land they step on is occupied PALESTINIAN territory. So while you are entitled to your opinion, more and more people are realizing what Israel has been doing and its harder to cover it up because of social networks now. People are sharing pictures, documents, news, reports on what Israel is doing everyday across the globe and more and more north american and european nationals are turning against Israel and for a good reason. So while me and you can argue here about whos right, people's opinion of Israel is changing every minute. Israel can hide its crimes under the carpet for so long but not the carpet is starting to lump up and people are noticing it.
I agree that Israel has some Arabic allies, mainly Saudi royals but thats no secret really. Saudi royals have been an american Bi*&h for decades and the world knows it. And many Arabs would love and attack on Iran but you know why? Because Iran has become a regional superpower and they dont like it. Bottom line is this, You cant keep your Nukes and tell eveyone esle not to have them. If Israel got rid of their Nukes, i would be the first person to support the idea of Iran not having them either but the time for double standards is over.
And your anti-semitic card doesnt work anymore. Its been so overplayed and pulled out so often that its lost all colors and no one cares. We all know that standing up to a monstrous government is not standing up against Jewsh people lol
I agree that Israel has some Arabic allies, mainly Saudi royals but thats no secret really. Saudi royals have been an american Bi*&h for decades and the world knows it. And many Arabs would love and attack on Iran but you know why? Because Iran has become a regional superpower and they dont like it. Bottom line is this, You cant keep your Nukes and tell eveyone esle not to have them. If Israel got rid of their Nukes, i would be the first person to support the idea of Iran not having them either but the time for double standards is over.
And your anti-semitic card doesnt work anymore. Its been so overplayed and pulled out so often that its lost all colors and no one cares. We all know that standing up to a monstrous government is not standing up against Jewsh people lol
Shaman
Well-known member
Palmpalm took the propaganda all the way to the hilt. Israel is NOT "the Jews" it is s country with leaders that defy international law and hide behind the ethics of religion and a horrific religious crime perpetrated 70 years ago.
I seriously doubt that many Jews or more pointedly, Israelis really are behind their government. Or that the dissenting rabbis care what some "authorities" have to say about their faith or opinions.
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I seriously doubt that many Jews or more pointedly, Israelis really are behind their government. Or that the dissenting rabbis care what some "authorities" have to say about their faith or opinions.
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PSY
Banned
Clearly the vast majority of people can read that my intent was to point out how easily we call people crazy and are dismissive of them when they say things we don't like to or want to hear as well as want others to pay attention to.
Ok, you played your Hitler card. Now what?
Still waiting for a reasonable explanation as to why the UN agreements is not being followed.
If Iran hates Jews and wants to wipe Israel of the earth uhm why don't they just kill the Jews in Iran or deport them?
See this argument of hate false apart when your "enemy" lives with and you protect them.
OpenGambit
Banned
PSY
Banned
Clearly you did not read what I wrote properly or you lack the comprehension aspect of the intent.
btw- We all know that once you begin the name calling or calling them dumb (with your more colorful words) conceded your position on the topic. You actually proved part of my point with your reply.
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OpenGambit
Banned
PSY
Banned
Ahh a tactic of the weak. You offer nothing but hurl insults at others.
Since this thread is of no interest to you and it is stupid as you put it then stop posting.
Simple, huh
lamtaf
I'd be really careful when using/quoting christian zealots to back up zionist ideals. The christians like the idea of zionism as they think it fulfills the criteria of the second coming when the end of days approaches according to the bible. Ie, they want the jews to return to the holy land so they can all be annihilated at Armageddon so the second coming can occur. I'd be really careful who you think your friends are if you're a zionist.
As for me..I have no problem saying I'm anti-zionist as the whole idea of using a book of fairy stories as a legal land deed is beyond ridiculous. On top of that...if you are going to give a country to a particular religion, it might be a good idea to make sure there's no one living there first.
As for me..I have no problem saying I'm anti-zionist as the whole idea of using a book of fairy stories as a legal land deed is beyond ridiculous. On top of that...if you are going to give a country to a particular religion, it might be a good idea to make sure there's no one living there first.
