Keep looking. You can also find sources saying that ALL Muslims are terrorists. That "a source" says it doesn't make it true.
How to keep young people from turning to ISIS?
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Keep looking. You can also find sources saying that ALL Muslims are terrorists. That "a source" says it doesn't make it true.
Shahfaisal's beacon of light for Islam in the news today:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/opinion/haas-iran-talks-misguided/index.html
Quote: "Iran remains the world's most aggressive state sponsor of terrorism"
This is the place that Shahfaisal recommended I visit.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/opinion/haas-iran-talks-misguided/index.html
Quote: "Iran remains the world's most aggressive state sponsor of terrorism"
This is the place that Shahfaisal recommended I visit.
And you are citing cnn.. which still refuses to recognize invasion of iraq as a war crime... cnn and other such networks were implicit in whitewashing the aggression.... case and point..
And where exactly does cnn rate US on state sponsorship of terrorism.. that I would really like to know.
One man's terrorist is another man's revolutionary remember that
what I don't understand is why we are still talking about this? Havent we already discussed this in the other thread?
Hamas and hezbullah are considered by cnn as terrorist organizations... since when is it a crime to fight a occupier?? Remember parts of lebanon are still under israeli occupation.
And where exactly does cnn rate US on state sponsorship of terrorism.. that I would really like to know.
One man's terrorist is another man's revolutionary remember that
what I don't understand is why we are still talking about this? Havent we already discussed this in the other thread?
Hamas and hezbullah are considered by cnn as terrorist organizations... since when is it a crime to fight a occupier?? Remember parts of lebanon are still under israeli occupation.
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Have you actually read the article? It says US made concessions. .. mmm what concessions.. iran offered to surrender some of its RIGHTS under the NPT for peace.. which no country should have to do... what exactly did US conceded? If iran surrenders its right US will minimize(NO GUARANTEES) some of the unprovoked aggression .. you really call that a concession...
Alot of you don't know whats been making rounds in actual international media... spy cables leaked by south African intelligence sources show.. that even mossad(israeli intelligence agency) does not believe iran is building or even has any intention of building a nuclear bomb... so please get your head out of the sand
Alot of you don't know whats been making rounds in actual international media... spy cables leaked by south African intelligence sources show.. that even mossad(israeli intelligence agency) does not believe iran is building or even has any intention of building a nuclear bomb... so please get your head out of the sand
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Right over might
Do you really wanna do this again zoodles?
Did we not learn our lesson from the US sponsored invasion of iran by iraq/subsequent invasion if iraq/second invasion of iraq/destruction of libya/attempted destruction of syria... the link to terrorism conveniantly shows up and later is proven as doctored again and again and again.. so on and so on... I really hope you dont push this bs... are over one million dead iraqis not enough for you zoodles.. are you looking for a million iranian dead now?
Dont forget the fraudulent invasion of afghanistan
Do people not realize its the wholesale murder of muslims worldwide that's creating more and more so called extremist (ironically being organized and trained by a certain umbrella organization)... the moment we realize that our opponents have rights too, that we've been violating those right for a longgggg time. That is the moment we START creating a peaceful world where all live in relative harmony and coexistance.
Just the FIRST STEP towards stopping young people from being attracted to fraud groups like isis.
Dont forget the fraudulent invasion of afghanistan
Do people not realize its the wholesale murder of muslims worldwide that's creating more and more so called extremist (ironically being organized and trained by a certain umbrella organization)... the moment we realize that our opponents have rights too, that we've been violating those right for a longgggg time. That is the moment we START creating a peaceful world where all live in relative harmony and coexistance.
Just the FIRST STEP towards stopping young people from being attracted to fraud groups like isis.
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Why haven't you blamed skull and bones and the illuminati yet
i will leave the conspiracy theory to you experts sonny... i have no knowledge in that field.. leave you guy to do what you do best
Stop flirting
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Snobike Mike
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Ah yes, it's all somebody else's fault that "radical" Islamists are committing heinous terrorists acts around the world.
you are absolutely right mike it's not somebody else's fault, but unless we attempt to learn what drove them towards hate we can never stop others from following the radicals. do you think the families of the dead Iraqi's should be called radicals if they are simply seeking justice and as a result pick up a gun...
i hope you are not going to try and say faking evidence to carry out a war of unprovoked aggression was the right thing to do.
nobody is born evil, and no one on any side of the planet wakes up one fine day and says lets kill some random people, life events shape peoples personality/mentality.
but if their was injustice done as a result of which they turned to hate, then we as human beings have a responsibility to at the very least recognize that injustice. that is what this thread is about is it not? "How to keep young people from turning to ISIS?"
a large part of isis is made up of Iraqis who suffered at the hands of the alliance of the so called free nations... that alone should make you question what happened that changed their lives upside down.
if you can... try watching mark walbergs movie "the green zone", and george clooneys "syriana"
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With responses like that I can't understand why shahfaisal even bothers to engage with you.
You state that mike is absolutely right, that it's not somebody else's fault and then you write a tome explaining why and how it's somebody else's fault. Communicating like that is needlessly tricky. What's the point? I agree, btw, with a lot of what you say.
i am not trying to blame,, but simply trying to show that things are never what they seem...
if a solution is to be found it has to start with recognition of fact, forget the blame.. we all know those who attacked iraq will never stand trial at the ICC or the HAGUE. so no point in calling for accountability.. but simply accepting facts helps us(you and i) reach out to others a lil bit more, helps us show a lil bit of humanity to those who had theirs snatched away.
In the case of Iran, it goes back to 1953 and the CIA-run coup of their democratically-elected prime minister. The US and Britain seemed to not like the thought that he was demanding a better deal for Iranian oil and would nationalize their oil industry if a better deal was not to be had.
That coup led to the US-supported installation of a military dictatorship (remember the Shah of Iran) whose excesses led to the violent overthrow by the mullahs. That in turn led to the US encouraging and arming Saddam's Iraq with weapons by which to go to a long and bloody war with Iran.
You do see how that might inspire a certain degree of animosity towards the West, right? If you go back to those roots, much mischief on the part of Iran can be laid at the feet of gross Western interference with the Iranian people's right to determine their own fate. Do you really think the mad mullahs could have risen to such prominence without the chain of events driven by that coup back in the 50's?
In that sense, yes, the West can be seen as being in at least good part responsible for where we are now with Iran.
thats a completely different monster, lets leave that for another day/another thread.
what we are tought in skools here is about 50% true, other half is edited out.. as you know history is written by the victory, facts are irrelevant.
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Cia run coup has a death toll of somewhere between one million to five million... unfortunately entire families were wiped out so no ine left to file a complaint... one million is confirmed as a minimum by state records.. most people did not have a passport so only those who did are counted
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