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Has the city lost it's mind...

48Connor said:
For some reason the TTC has become a daycare for these people, and that needs to end.
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Part of it is TTC is warm and accessible. I took TTC for the first time in a decade just before xmas. In every station there were at least a half dozen people nodding (super high, some with pants that had fallen off and they didn't notice). They seem relatively harmless in that state but obviously are not thinking clearly so it probably isn't hard for the switch to flip. Aerosolized narcan on TTC so people don't hang out there? Back to root cause for a solution.
 
GreyGhost said:
On my way to nairobi I sat beside a beautiful and friendly polish girl. She wanted to me to redirect for a couple days to visit poland. I decided not to for many reasons. Good thing too as I had recently started dating the person I would marry. Lots of what ifs but timing didn't work out.
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The GTAM version of Dear Penthouse, I was flying to Naiobi......
 
crankcall said:
My best friend spent time in foster care as an infant , circumstance made that a better place for her to be . Her mother took her back at age 1 ish .

A sad reality is many of the kids in the 'system' are the result of parents that have addiction issues, mental health are simply the children themselves of people with alcohol and drug issues or limited mental capacity and the cycle continues. There are cases where childrens aid is waiting at the hospital for person XX to deliver and the infant is removed immediately . Equaly frightening are the women delivering a 3-4th child and can tell you to the penny what the child tax credit will pay for baby X , its a bank account supporting a welfare based lifestyle.
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And some people are normal enough to be off the radar but the acceptance of ignorance was widespread. My parent's marriage was on the rocks before I was born, my father disappeared and my mother raised my brother and myself working her fingers to the bone. She didn't have to but she was a control freak and she rejected any guy that could out plan her.

We met her dates and some were very interesting. One was a Ford engineer and he told us how Ford got the 65 Mustang on the street before the competition even got a whiff of it coming. Everything went through as "Special Falcon" and no one was interested in a tarted up Falcon.

The big problem is that we tend to think of our upbringing as being normal. That can include a lot of undesirable traits that have to be unlearned in later years, hopefully before they get passed on to another generation.

FWIW I reconnected with my father's second family and got the other side of the story. A fabulous story but I'm sworn to secrecy. Sadly he passed a couple of years before the re-connection.
 
crankcall said:
so a holiday in Poland would include meeting cute blond gals that really want to get laid? game on
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Never got around to the laid part but in high school I was going up the stairs and noticed a pair of fabulous legs ahead of me. I'm not sure what class I was headed to but I ended up on the floor she was headed to.

A couple of puppy love days trying to find out who she was and eventually a friend of a friend knew her brother and I got her number. We dated a bit including me being her escort to a beauty pageant. I'm part Polish but she was turning out to be too Polish for me. You have to have some Polish blood in you to understand.
 
48Connor said:
Back to city violence;

Part of me always wonders if there has been an explosion of violence in the city/on public transport or if we are just hearing about it more.

Was is 2018 or 19 when racism was huge on the news? Someone jackass would write the n-word on the inside of a port-a-potty at a construction site and we'd have ever news outlet there doing live interviews. Some school kid faking having her hijab ripped off for attention. Etc. Etc. I have no doubt that racism still happens, its just its not newsworthy anymore unless its a major event (George Floyd, etc.).

Either way something needs to be done. What is something? I dont know. If you're going to push someone in front of a subway train or stab someone randomly, no amount of counseling is going to help you. The baby has already been born on that one. For some reason the TTC has become a daycare for these people, and that needs to end.
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Swarming was a thing a while back but went away. Why did it go away and why did it come back?

The whole story please: A six year old in the USA shoots his teacher.

A) The kid was supposed to be with one of his parents while at school due to a disability (Unnamed)

-Mother apologizes, Sorry our bad.

- Did they forget or was it "Lets see what happens if we miss the occasional day......or two........or week.

The gun: OK It's the USA not Chicken Little Canada but you have a problem child in the house and "SOMEHOW?" the gun was available.... Oops my bad. Knives are not illegal in Canada.

To me it sounds like the kid is fodder for a horror movie plot with the parents and their allies thinking he'll grow out of it. But at what risk? At what point to rights trump responsibility? It can happen here. Google Jennifer Pan, not quite the same but offing your parents at any age....

I think some people are born evil. They can be a danger at six or sixty. It is happening here but then we can blame it on Covid or housing so let fly.

Earlier I threw out the idea of a graduated adulthood instead of the 18 YO all or nothing line. Is there some merit in the idea.

At age 16 you can get a driver's license so why could a 16 YO use a car as a weapon and claim juvenile status?

The graduated adulthood concept works the opposite of graduated licensing. Instead of proving your ability to go up a degree you have to prove that you deserve to be tried as a juvenile when you have demonstrated the abilities of a an adult driver by getting a license. I don't know the earliest age a person can get a full G in Ontario. I got my chauffeur's licence three months after my 16th birthday under the old system. (I got my license on a Rambler station wagon at 16 and the next day I could legally drive an 18 wheeler tanker full of gasoline during rush hour on the 401.)

I understand the young offenders act in some circumstances but at 14 YO you have to know it's not OK to stab people.

A friend here in the GTA got a letter from his daughter's daycare explaining that she may have been subjected to a traumatic event. They refused to give details because of the rights of the perpetrator. What???????

Has the city lost it's mind... YES​

 
Scuba Steve said:
Then we are all f***** nothing is going to fix the government without getting rid of every single sitting MP

Sent from the future
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That doesn't even help much. They get replaced by a new group of thieves and liers. You cant get elected by telling people you are cutting services and raising taxes to try to dig out from the historical waste/pig trough.
 
www.thebeaverton.com

TTC increases security on streetcars to ensure stabbers paid fare

TORONTO - After a recent rash of stabbings on public transit, TTC officials and Mayor John Tory announced today there would be an increased security presence on all vehicles to prevent any more knife-wielding maniacs from attacking other passengers without having first paid their fare.
www.thebeaverton.com www.thebeaverton.com
 
crankcall said:
so a holiday in Poland would include meeting cute blond gals that really want to get laid? game on
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That's how I remember Poland. Last time I was there was '87. Their reasons for extending affection were different then.
 
GreyGhost said:
That doesn't even help much. They get replaced by a new group of thieves and liers. You cant get elected by telling people you are cutting services and raising taxes to try to dig out from the historical waste/pig trough.
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For starters give a person a piece of paper and a pencil. Tell them to write down the FACTS about why they think they are special and where the money to accommodate them is coming from. Explain what facts are. "I think....and I deserve" aren't facts. Oh and give them a big eraser.
 
More social insanity.

A couple of months ago I went to my local pharmacy and had to be buzzed in. It turns out that there have been a string of take over robberies targeting drug stores. Hostile grab of cash and narcotics. Get away in stolen car.

Police have arrested a bunch and the ages are as low as 13 IIRC.

More TTC attacks as well.

Kid shot at Weston High School.

John Tory resets the bar for fidelity

More mature people that had reasonable real estate and job opportunities may have problems understanding the younger set and the frustration of not seeing a future. The capital cities offer bread and circuses.
 
I'm going to give an elementary teacher's perspective...we had a PA Day yesterday and the topic du jour was equity and inclusion...so many systems are broken I don't know where to start...even before Covid hit, parents were more interested in being friends with their kids instead of parents...I can't count the number of times I've had to evacuate my classroom because 1 child goes berzerk and starts throwing furniture, books etc. around the room...our hands are tied and all because the MOE says we have to follow progressive discipline...there are so many steps that need to take place, that it's virtually impossible to suspend/expel a child...all in the name of inclusion...parents are in denial...they don't want to put their kids on meds...they don't want their kids to be labelled...they personally are not ready to have their child send to a special behavioural school...but they are ready to blame the school system and point fingers at the teachers for not doing anything to help their child...Covid has just made things worse...the grades 1-3 students this year are an absolute handful...disrespectful to staff/each other, physically abusive, verbally abusive, some call the racist card at every turn, don't know how to be independent/problem solvers, can't focus, parents who gave up trying to manage their own work as well as remote learning at the same time...so when will parents be ready to step up and start parenting?...when their child becomes one of these kids in the news killing, stabbing, thieving statistics?...rant over...
 
ifiddles said:
I'm going to give an elementary teacher's perspective...we had a PA Day yesterday and the topic du jour was equity and inclusion...so many systems are broken I don't know where to start...even before Covid hit, parents were more interested in being friends with their kids instead of parents...I can't count the number of times I've had to evacuate my classroom because 1 child goes berzerk and starts throwing furniture, books etc. around the room...our hands are tied and all because the MOE says we have to follow progressive discipline...there are so many steps that need to take place, that it's virtually impossible to suspend/expel a child...all in the name of inclusion...parents are in denial...they don't want to put their kids on meds...they don't want their kids to be labelled...they personally are not ready to have their child send to a special behavioural school...but they are ready to blame the school system and point fingers at the teachers for not doing anything to help their child...Covid has just made things worse...the grades 1-3 students this year are an absolute handful...disrespectful to staff/each other, physically abusive, verbally abusive, some call the racist card at every turn, don't know how to be independent/problem solvers, can't focus, parents who gave up trying to manage their own work as well as remote learning at the same time...so when will parents be ready to step up and start parenting?...when their child becomes one of these kids in the news killing, stabbing, thieving statistics?...rant over...
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Yup. A year or so back a kid stabbed another. The offenders mother says "Why didn't someone stop him?"
Oh and don't forget to teach the kid manners. Parents raised their spawn at burger joints so the little one doesn't know what a fork is.
 
just-me said:
I feel your pain. Four words for you...
BRING BACK THE STRAP!
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I don't completely rule out some physical punishment but it bothers me to resort to violence to resolve issues. Where do you draw the line? What is the example?

After a certain age the strap just makes the kid more angry.

This didn't happen overnight. As more homes became two income eat and sleep locations more duties were passed on to day care workers, baby sitters and teachers. None of those have the rights of parents with regards to discipline. The controls the workers do have aren't sufficient to reverse the damage done by remote parenting.

No parent wants to admit they're a failure and their theoretically ideal family isn't so ideal. No one wants to admit they're a bad parent so it must be someone elses fault.

Just like a 50 something without a property, RRSP, assets, education, suddenly sees the lightbulb come on. It's someone elses fault. How do you fix the problem immediately?

The fix is to send the kid home. Parents have to do their own babysitting or be charged with neglect. Woohoo wake up call.

The media will go ape citing the problems of the parent and how the government needs to spend more. How about the parents learning that there is more to raising a child than having sex and knowing enough English to order at McDonalds.

If the kids act up the parents have to go to obedience school.
 
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nobbie48 said:
I don't completely rule out some physical punishment but it bothers me to resort to violence to resolve issues. Where do you draw the line? What is the example?

After a certain age the strap just makes the kid more angry.
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In the 9 years (K-8) that I spent in school I only recall the strap being given 6 times. Two to me, once to a brother.
Then when we got home, strap again from mom.
It's not so much the use, just the threat was enough to keep you on the straight and narrow.
 
just-me said:
In the 9 years (K-8) that I spent in school I only recall the strap being given 6 times. Two to me, once to a brother.
Then when we got home, strap again from mom.
It's not so much the use, just the threat was enough to keep you on the straight and narrow.
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So you're saying that neither the threat of it, nor the use of it, actually worked. Thanks for giving first hand experience.

My experience was the strap was 99.9% threat only in my school by the time I started going. I can recall one of my brothers friends getting it, and it did dick all. That kid had a nasty home life and lashed out all the time. Without the root cause being treated, he'll never be cured. That's the crux of the issue with corporal punishment by an outside source. Without the home life being corrected, the kid will just keep lashing out, out of frustration and anger.

As was already stated by someone, parents need to stop being their kids friends. Whenever someone asked me why my kids were so well behaved, I told them it's very simple, don't try to be their friends, and say no frequently.
 
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