Guys, Please. Stay away from me.

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Keep up? Ha! Ok gramps, you will be eating the dust off my rear tire. No go back to your nursing home.
 
WOW, I've never ever had any random try to ride next to me ever. One time a guy on an old kz that was ratted out (and looked great) filtered up to me at a red light because he wanted to see my bike but that's it. As long as the other rider behaves proper nOOb or not who cares? Ill tell ya, I have had worse things said to me about my bike from people in their cage then I have ever heard from another biker. Next time another bikers rides up and says nice bike, think of how much nicer that sounded then the random "dude" in his Harley edition pickup truck looking down on ya snorting " Jap piece of ****". Hey if your an experienced rider then you got enough ability to get aways from the other biker that's putting you in untold peril.

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alaywa said:
Let me be frank...I have a decade plus experience, in multiple countries, on multiple machines, in multiple social biking cultures. I am aware this biking culture has few veterans and many inexperienced riders...but at the same time I do not share your jaded attitude in the slightest. In fact I am glad my experience allows me to enjoy the benefits of this riding culture and not be scared off by it's short comings. To each their own, and if you don't want anyone in your own lane, try telling them:

"sorry, and please don't take this the wrong way, but I don't feel confortable riding in the lane with you. It's not you, it's me, sorry. Have a nice ride."

That might serve you better. Maybe even make a little laminated card in big font for those riders with ear phones. It will save all the moaning, to no effect, in the forum.

Fact is, you may have become jaded but the rest of out there have not. You truly are in a minority. This "dusty past" you speak of is just your dusty memory. The brotherhood spirit is alive and well....why else do you figure there are so many rides and meets? I don't see random cars meeting twice a week to go on 8 hour drives in big circles for the hell of it!!!! I still haven't found a GTA car forum. Cars don't pull up to each other, smile and have little chats. People don't randomly stop kia owners to ask them how many ccs they have, or what top speed they got to. Quite simply there IS a social culture around bikes, and quite simply it requires some "experience" and or training to deal with it.

By the way I have ridden with youthful 70 year olds before, who didn't seem to have as dusty a memory as you. I have been approached by 60 year old Pakistanis in Canadian Tire parking lots to have 30 min chats about the 125 they had back in Karachi and all their mountain road riding they have done, and I see the glow their faces as they tour my bike. Funny I don't remember yelling at them to get out of my parking space! I for one feel richer for the experience.
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I like the way this guy thinks.
 
maybe he OP should just put "**** u " on eeach side of his helmet, that way his msg will be loud and clear for all riders around him.
 
Low rider said:
Friday on the way home from work. I see this guy riding behind me on a 500 Ninja.
He was a few cars behind and was trying to catch up to me. He was stealing all my moves in traffic, trying desperatly to catch up to me.
When finally he caught me, I blocked his passage on purpose so that he could not pull beside me. Next light I did the same thing.
The next light, he pulled up beside me even though I had left no room for him.
I kindly asked him to keep his distance.

Listen, I am an instructor, and I know the kind of riders there are out there. And I trust nobody I don't know.

Why is is so important to other riders to come up beside another rider at a light, just to say hello.

I don't know you. I have no desire to get to know you, I don't trust you to do the right thing once we get into traffic.
As a matter of fact, almost every rider I have let come up beside me in my lane, to say hello has boned me in my lane, when we got riding down the road.
Or gotten in my way when I want to pass a car.

I will not ever let another rider get into my lane at a light.

Can somebody please explain the need to share my lane with me?
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Rina said:
maybe he OP should just put "**** u " on eeach side of his helmet, that way his msg will be loud and clear for all riders around him.
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Take it out of a motorcycle context. I can think of more than a few people who would be slightly irritated if someone, just to be friendly, were to just come up and take up a seat right next to them on a near empty bus, or in a near empty theatre, or at a table in a near empty fast-food place without first asking if you didn't mind.

How is this really any different from pulling right alongside uninvited in the same lane at a traffic light. Why should common rules of politeness and respect for personal space go out the window just because someone's on a bike?

Aside from that, the rider is entitled to his full lane whether moving or not. How many here would appreciate someone in a car coming up alongside of you at a set of lights? How is that really any different, especially if the driver just happens to also be a rider?
 
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I don't mind someone saying "Hi" but way too often lately, it seems to be that they're just take it as an opportunity to pass me in my lane. They filter up, sometimes talk, sometimes don't...then the light changes and the buggers blow past me. Idiots. NOT cool and definitely not appreciated.

If they do try to start to ride with me and I don't know them, I ditch them.
 
Isn't if funny how the people who agree with me, do so in a polite peasant manner. But those tha appose just shoot off their mouths?
 
Low rider said:
Isn't if funny how the people who agree with me, do so in a polite peasant manner. But those tha appose just shoot off their mouths?
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Emotional topic. Regardless of whether it was your intention or not, some people read your post as having some "self-righteous" accents in it.

And those that agree with you, how would they be unpleasant? "I agree with you, assshole!"?
 
El Zilcho said:
Emotional topic. Regardless of whether it was your intention or not, some people read your post as having some "self-righteous" accents in it.

And those that agree with you, how would they be unpleasant? "I agree with you, assshole!"?
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By disagreeing, with his dissenters, in a rude manner perhaps?
 
I agree lol And As I am farely new to rideing I never pull up beside someone in a group ride unless motioned to...When I ride with the hubby I always do because we communicate that way. It's just what I have learned.
Low rider said:
Isn't if funny how the people who agree with me, do so in a polite peasant manner. But those tha appose just shoot off their mouths?
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turbodish said:
Take it out of a motorcycle context. I can think of more than a few people who would be slightly irritated if someone, just to be friendly, were to just come up and take up a seat right next to them on a near empty bus, or in a near empty theatre, or at a table in a near empty fast-food place without first asking if you didn't mind.

How is this really any different from pulling right alongside in the same lane at a traffic light. Why should common rules of politeness and respect for personal space go out the window just because someone's on a bike?

Aside from that, the rider is entitled to his full lane whether moving or not. How many here would appreciate someone in a car coming up alongside of you at a set of lights? How is that really any different?
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"empty bus"...first of all, I'm sure if the lanes next to the rider were empty the other rider is likely to take them, secondly if the lane is half empty that is justification enough to pull up at a light. It's not your personal space as safety has ceased to be an issue at a FULL STOP! Now if someone sits next to me on a fairly crowded bus (i.e. no empty triples, and yes I mean triple seats, cause an empty double may also mean they will set next to someone else in a bench situation), then they DONT NEED TO ASK. If they give me a friendly nod, more power to these "social rebels".

When it comes to eating....well we here in NA are spoiled for space, but in much of the world a PUBLIC dining space with an empty seat is up for grabs! If the place is empty, sure people spread out. That being said, I once met a flat mate who ended up bailing me out of some seriously tight rent situations all due to running out of space at a restaurant, so I sat next to a stranger and wow, had a conversation!!!! Crazy Europeans I know!


"Blowing past you". Since when is safely pulling up beside you slowly at a red light, stopping and accelerating quicker than you off the line "blowing past you" and since when is that rude or illegal?

Guys, just crawl back into your cars, saw off the roof and put on a helmet.

Personal space is shrinking, unless of course you are fleeing to the burbs. The whole idea of the anti social bubble commute is on the verge of being debunked. You can deal with it 2 ways...put on some cologne and learn to be friendly, or carry on with your BO and BA (Bad attitude). Strange though....with all you anti-social "the biker brotherhood is dead" types....why are you here socializing with other riders?!?!?! STAY OUT OF MY PERSONAL THREAD SPACE. GET YOUR OWN THREAD. DON'T QUOTE ME WITHOUT ASKING AND IF YOU DO I'LL KICK OVER YOUR COMPUTER OR HIT THE KILL SWITCH ON THE POWER BAR.
 
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It's not polite to pull up beside someone in their lane at a light, but somehow the op asking people politely to please not do it is considered "antisocial"?
 
Baggsy said:
It's not polite to pull up beside someone in their lane at a light, but somehow the op asking people politely to please not do it is considered "antisocial"?
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It's not rude either. It's just fine.

It's not polite to drive and park and stop at a red light. It's nothing extra...it's just normal. It's not rude either.
 
alaywa said:
It's not rude either. It's just fine.

It's not polite to drive and park and stop at a red light. It's nothing extra...it's just normal. It's not rude either.
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You must have been sleeping during that part of the class.

I've had guys split traffic and do some pretty stupid stuff while I was sitting at a red light. Even stupider once it turned green.
 
Yes, good point.
The more you ride down town, the more crap you see.
Why are there so many stupid riders down town?

By the way. I ride every day to work, and see a lot of stupid stuff being done on motorcycles.
By people who have very little seat time.


Baggsy said:
You must have been sleeping during that part of the class.

I've had guys split traffic and do some pretty stupid stuff while I was sitting at a red light. Even stupider once it turned green.
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Baggsy said:
I've had guys split traffic and do some pretty stupid stuff while I was sitting at a red light. Even stupider once it turned green.
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So..? Pulling up to someone at a traffic light does not automatically imply any of the above.
 
alaywa said:
"Blowing past you". Since when is safely pulling up beside you slowly at a red light, stopping and accelerating quicker than you off the line "blowing past you" and since when is that rude or illegal?

Guys, just crawl back into your cars, saw off the roof and put on a helmet.

Personal space is shrinking, unless of course you are fleeing to the burbs. The whole idea of the anti social bubble commute is on the verge of being debunked. You can deal with it 2 ways...put on some cologne and learn to be friendly, or carry on with your BO and BA (Bad attitude).
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Ok, so you'll have no problem if I as a fellow rider, when out in my convertible instead of my bike, decide to pull right beside you in your lane at the lights. And you won't mind at all if, when the light turns green, that I out-accelerate you to get ahead of you. After all, you claim that lane-sharing is perfectly legal and alright, and as you claim in your own words, "since when is that rude or illegal?"
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