Great.... Pegassus' Plan To Lead A Group Ride Is Snuffed By Rain

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Paul1000RR said:
lol
people who have never been on a 600 or 1000 have no idea how fast these bikes really are. you don't even try and leave everything behind.
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LOL people who don't know what I ride shouldn't make fools of themselves with assumptions. I own a 750 gixxer, so can I assume you only own a 600cc and then pretend because of that my argument is more valid? Now that we've establised that I own a ss can you logically refute what I said?
Redrock said:
Lol I think some of you are missing a very key aspect to spirited riding or riding in general. So we've covered high speeds...no problem, 250's will do 140kph plus so check mark there. Okay a capable rider can put them around a corner just as fast as an SS...so another check there. Braking not an issue.

So what happened to acceleration? Ahh right....that's what we forgot. Best way I can explain how a 250 falls behind is take and SS or quick bike and accelerate. I'm not taking WOT or high speeds, no that'll result in wheelies or a huge ticket. Just moderate to brisk acceleration.

Count the number of times you twist the throttle and that's the number of times 250's fall behind, now translate that to riding with a 250 and you should get my point...if that fails...I don't know what to say.
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LOL(I'm noticing a trend with people who start a response like this) I've been on a few spirited rides with people on this forum and 250s have no issue accelerating in the corners and keeping up. Sure on straights they may lag a little behind, but skilled riders could care less about blasting it in the straights. I would suggest some people here read the sticky about pushing it on the street and why it's unnecessary to have to go hot into corners.
 
I think the key is more not to be an inflexible a-hole rather than stringently matching the capabilities of the bikes on the ride.

short stop said:
There's no argument that a smaller displacement engine will have to work harder to keep up with big boys. I think most posters here understand the difference in acceleration between an SS and a 250.

But bottom line is that there are plenty of group rides that include many different sizes and styles of bikes that somehow manage to keep it together. There are many factors involved in whom can get left behind in these situations.

BTW, I'm not sure if you're an SS rider, but you realize that you'd also be excluded from Peggy's group ride? :D
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short stop said:
Redrock - I respect the fact that you're sticking up for the OP, but lest you think this is just an internet pile-on, I suggest you browse through some of the other fine gems of threads that he's started on GTAM.

As for the 250 comment - 250s are only slow because it's usually tentative n00bs who are riding them. Group rides need to specify whether they are beginner friendly from the outset. Any bike in the right hands (especially 250Rs) can beat the pants off the bigger bikes in the twisties, especially when you're with SS riders who have no idea how to handle their bikes and slow to a crawl in the turns. It's a stupid comment, regardless of which poster is making it.
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+1 , didnt see this before....
 
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Gee you dudes take it too personal....the guy/s are yankin your chains.
 
Are you the wicked witch of the west or something, will you melt in the rain?
 
mimico_polak said:
Only low drag motorcycle ones allowed...apparently 250s can't keep up so you can't add extra drag!
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But I have a sticker to make up for the lost HP!.. I could add a few more ...

jeezzz... what Backpack should I bring? I need something that will fit my alarm system!!
 
dricked said:
How much more space does a 250 require to pass a slow moving vehicle in an 80km/h zone? I think this is the biggest difference, they can't just zip around a car and catch up to the group.
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Are you joking? I used to have a 350cc dual-sport and could accelerate quick from 80 km/h to 110 km/h to overpass vehicles going at 80 km/h. I'm sure these 250's Ninjas are faster than that 350cc dual-sport. I'm not descriminating against 250's, I say bring them at your own risk because there were times in straight stretches that I had to accelerate from 90 km/h to 150 km/h within 5 seconds to catch up to these kamikaze hooligans (that's the term I used for these young punks riding SS bikes).
 
Pegassus said:
It has to do more with the riders riding it, I would imagine they have to be way faster than my old 350cc dual-sport since they have 750cc to 1100cc engines but let me tell you this, I have never seen a cruiser flying at high speeds or taking off at high speeds, maybe they are fat white elephants without guts I wouldn't know.

If I were you I wouldn't buy a cruiser, how old are you? Buy a sport-tourer, they are comfortable and have decent power.
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Do people actually listen to this and take advice like this? I hope the majority of the members here are smarter than this or at least seek the opinions of other riders before falling for bad information like this.
 
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