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Either that or the more plausible explanation - there's a lot of media coverage and they want their 15min

You still think there is some fame to be had by this situation. What fame have these women gained? Being called liars and fame seekers? How about being questioned on how they must have enjoyed the abuse and just regretted it because so many think so little of women that they assume sleeping with someone famous is a reward that everyone women is seeking.

Please spell out exactly what these women are gaining here by lying? and no women aren't just vindictive creatures bent on taking down successful men.

Now think to yourself what JG has to gain by lying?

Navigator dropped JG (thats bad when a firm specializing in dirtbags drops you)
His management dropped JG
Lights dropped JG
CBC dropped JG

But 9 women 3 now who have filed charges are just seeking fame. You really feel that is the more plausible explanation?
 
JG clearly has issues, but thats not the real issue here.

the real issue is that JG is/was/whatever fired from his job because of these allegations.
These accusations are coming from past sexual partners of his.
Obviously JG is into some BDSM, he has never hidden this, in fact he gave videos of this freely.

I still believe these women were willing participants at the time. If anyone felt used,abused at anytime, they could have went to the police, yet no-one did

remember when the 50 shades of Grey book came out, that all women talked about.
its my belief that some of these ladies delved into a scene that maybe wasnt for them.

Im thinking any woman that has a hand up where it shouldnt be would respond with maybe scratching eyes out, or kicks to the sack or any other kind of self defence wounds.

why are women coming out of the woodwork and saying things now ? who knows... who knows why women do what they do, they are totally irrational. lol
remember, the first person to be open and honest was JG
I dont think he did anything wrong, only for the fact that no-one went to police within a reasonable timeframe
out of curiosity who has the newest complaint, and how long ago was it ?


all men should be watching this case carefully.
what if an old ex decides one day that you did the same ?
using food/ fruit/handcuffed to bed hot wax/ feathers.

thats assault/torture/kidnapping rape.

its a slippery slope,folks.
 
Either that or the more plausible explanation - there's a lot of media coverage and they want their 15min
If that's what they're after, they could have had their 15 minutes of fame when it happened. What's changed?
 
If that's what they're after, they could have had their 15 minutes of fame when it happened. What's changed?

Maybe at the time they looked at their own contribution to the situation coupled with the fact that they knew they were using JG for what ever they thought an association with him would bring. Remember, he was a going concern. Women like that damhik.
 
all men should be watching this case carefully.
what if an old ex decides one day that you did the same ?
using food/ fruit/handcuffed to bed hot wax/ feathers.

thats assault/torture/kidnapping rape.

its a slippery slope,folks.


I agree. It's so easy for women in this society to call "rape". It's men that need to be afraid of what's going on here. In assault/sexual assault cases, it's the women who's given the benefit of the doubt.

I believe that Jian's the victim here. Jian's a good man and a brave one at that. He's done so much for Canada. I can't say that for the rest of these women, who've deluded themselves into believing that they were harmed. When in reality, they sought him out. Even though he had a reputation, according to the news, these women still wanted to sleep with him. They still wanted to date him all in the name of trying to advance their own careers at Jian's expense.

So, who do you believe? Women who sought Jian out only because he had influence and was famous? Or, these women, who are probably bitter and jealous of Jian?
 
JG clearly has issues, but thats not the real issue here.

the real issue is that JG is/was/whatever fired from his job because of these allegations.
These accusations are coming from past sexual partners of his.
Obviously JG is into some BDSM, he has never hidden this, in fact he gave videos of this freely.

I still believe these women were willing participants at the time. If anyone felt used,abused at anytime, they could have went to the police, yet no-one did

remember when the 50 shades of Grey book came out, that all women talked about.
its my belief that some of these ladies delved into a scene that maybe wasnt for them.

Im thinking any woman that has a hand up where it shouldnt be would respond with maybe scratching eyes out, or kicks to the sack or any other kind of self defence wounds.

why are women coming out of the woodwork and saying things now ? who knows... who knows why women do what they do, they are totally irrational. lol
remember, the first person to be open and honest was JG
I dont think he did anything wrong, only for the fact that no-one went to police within a reasonable timeframe
out of curiosity who has the newest complaint, and how long ago was it ?


all men should be watching this case carefully.
what if an old ex decides one day that you did the same ?
using food/ fruit/handcuffed to bed hot wax/ feathers.

thats assault/torture/kidnapping rape.

its a slippery slope,folks.
You seem to be taking his FB post at face value. He was first to speak out because that's basic PR strategy; get ahead of the story so people get your version of events first and the subsequent avalanche doesn't crush you.

You're right though, one of the key questions is if the CBC wrongfully dismissed him. That's what Jian said, and maybe they did but it's odd. The CBC isn't run by amateurs, they have all the HR and legal advice they need, and they are one of the more forward-thinking employers out there. They also had plenty more reason to keep him than get rid of him with the success of Q.

The other claim he made in that post is that one jilted ex-lover was going around rallying up other women to make this accusation against him. So either these other women had no beef with him and are all just plain malicious, or they all have a reason to begrudge him which they never spoke out about before.

When his FB post came out I kept these questions in the back of my head and reserved judgement for later when the rest of the story came out. Well, it turns out that the CBC has explicit video information that no one else has which they deem incriminating enough to warrant their response. And many of the women who have come forward are telling the same story and never knew about each other until now.

There's simply no rational way Jian's FB post can be taken seriously given all that. The CBC would have to be run by retarded knuckle-dragging numbskulls and the women would have had to be concocting this grand strategy for about a decade. I mean, people can choose to believe that those things are true and that a guy who happens to like being dominant during sex couldn't also be a rapist. But those people would be delusional.

It's funny that a forum that thrives on hating the police, repeatedly denouncing how useless they are in recovering stolen bikes and defending us from home invasions, also claims the police are the required go-to people for a rape victims or they can't be taken seriously. What a double standard!

Chances are that his eventual charges will lead to nothing, because there will be a lack of proof. And that's fine for the justice system. Just like the rest of us don't need to worry about jilted exes deciding to go to the cops based on our own consensual fetish sex. Like you said, that's not what this is about. This is about how society reacts to allegations of rape both professionally (CBC), legally (cops), and socially (us). And it's a very very ugly answer.
 
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Maybe at the time they looked at their own contribution to the situation coupled with the fact that they knew they were using JG for what ever they thought an association with him would bring. Remember, he was a going concern. Women like that damhik.
That was true then and now. What changed?
 
If this is about how society reacts to allegations of rape (I doubt it) then maybe women should look at why that is. It would be helpful in the same way it's helpful to understand why women falsely accuse men of child molestation.
 
Their relationship to JG for one. Knowing that they were just a conquest for two.
I don't understand. Are you saying at the time of their "consensual" tryst they thought they were special to him even though they made efforts to avoid him again afterwards, and now realize that he just used them for his own pleasure and got upset by it?

I don't get it.
 
I don't understand. Are you saying at the time of their "consensual" tryst they thought they were special to him even though they made efforts to avoid him again afterwards, and now realize that he just used them for his own pleasure and got upset by it?

I don't get it.

And they made these efforts to AVOID him by meeting up with him and having sex several more times afterwards?

Come on...
 
I don't understand. Are you saying at the time of their "consensual" tryst they thought they were special to him even though they made efforts to avoid him again afterwards, and now realize that he just used them for his own pleasure and got upset by it?

I don't get it.

My mind isn't made up, how could it be? I'm willing to look at all possibilities. There were 9 as I understand it. There could well be 9 variations of the same general story. Different degrees of attachment to JG, whatever. Efforts to avoid him is what you're hearing now, not then. Is there any record of one of the 9 confiding to anyone of an assault rising to the level of criminal from when it happened?
 
And they made these efforts to AVOID him by meeting up with him and having sex several more times afterwards?

Come on...
I don't know of any such case who is also accusing him of rape. Like I said, he had more than one partner, they weren't all the same relations. This issue is about those who accuse him of assault or rape.
 
My mind isn't made up, how could it be? I'm willing to look at all possibilities. There were 9 as I understand it. There could well be 9 variations of the same general story. Different degrees of attachment to JG, whatever. Efforts to avoid him is what you're hearing now, not then. Is there any record of one of the 9 confiding to anyone of an assault rising to the level of criminal from when it happened?
Yes, both Lucy DeCoutere and Reva Seth told their now husbands years ago. They couldn't stand to hear or listen to anything to do with Jian since their encounter, so perhaps other family and friends know too.
 
Yes, both Lucy DeCoutere and Reva Seth told their now husbands years ago. They couldn't stand to hear or listen to anything to do with Jian since their encounter, so perhaps other family and friends know too.

So your wife tells you how a guy raped her and you just stand by and do nothing?
What planet am i living on? Has all the common sense evaporated ?
 
So your wife tells you how a guy raped her and you just stand by and do nothing?
What planet am i living on? Has all the common sense evaporated ?
She got married long after her encounter with Jian, and it's not for the superhero man like you always are to charge in and make all these life-changing decisions for the poor fragile inconsolable woman.

Unlike many here, he probably understood that pursuing justice was a losing proposition that would only cause her more grief. She decided not to pursue the matter at the time and he respected that decision. That's what a supportive partner does.
 
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Yes, both Lucy DeCoutere and Reva Seth told their now husbands years ago. They couldn't stand to hear or listen to anything to do with Jian since their encounter, so perhaps other family and friends know too.

Is that what they're saying? Now?
 
Is that what they're saying? Now?
So now you figure they're dragging their husbands into this grand fraud of using Jian to prop themselves up into this great limelight for 15 minutes, because it's absolutely impossible that anyone could rape others ever, at all. Never.

Or just not anyone famous?
 
Keep in mind that there is at least one multi million dollar civil law suit, or will likely be more, hanging around and waiting for the outcome of the criminal investigation. When sharks smell money, there will always be someone try to jump on the wagon. I bet there will soon be civil suit either against G for the abuse or CBC for covering up or inaction. It's not like no one has never falsified or "stretched" the truth for financial gains. No one in this fiasco is 100% innocent my opinion.


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