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Splash said:
A better comparison? No since what you described IS in the HTA as being illegal. No where in the HTA does it mention "The possibility of hiding your license plate"

Using your argument, I guess this is also illegal...

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I didn't even think of this. Yeah, my Jeep has the flip license plate for the gas. I guess according to caboose I have been breaking the law ever since owning it. Don't worry bud, I'm going to go turn myself in to the coppers just as soon as I'm done laughing.
 
Splash said:
A better comparison? No since what you described IS in the HTA as being illegal. No where in the HTA does it mention "The possibility of hiding your license plate"

Using your argument, I guess this is also illegal...

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That can't be triggered from inside the vehicle during operation, so it doesn't technically fit the definitions set forth in the HTA. A mechanically operated flip plate does, however, and so can get your plate confiscated and your vehicle towed. nfq posted the appropriate sections.
 
imnothng said:
I didn't even think of this. Yeah, my Jeep has the flip license plate for the gas. I guess according to caboose I have been breaking the law ever since owning it. Don't worry bud, I'm going to go turn myself in to the coppers just as soon as I'm done laughing.
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There is no difference between an obsolete OEM plate mounting system (20 years since any car was built with a filler neck behind the plate?) and an intentionally modified plate mount on a motorcycle?

Ohhhhhhkay!

I'm sure that simple explanation would satisfy a police officer.

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Ok, are I need clarification. Are we talking about a plate at is hinged, or a plate that can move by a switch?

I thought we are talking about a plate on a hinge, and I don't see what is illegal about that as long as it is visible.

If it can be moved by a switch I could see some cops taking issue with it.
 
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imnothng said:
Ok, are I need clarification. Are we talking about a plate at is hinged, or a plate that can move by a switch?

I thought we are talking about a plate on a hinge, and I don't see what is illegal about that as long as it is visible.

If it can be moved by a switch I could see some cops taking issue with it.
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Since the plate is easily within reach of the rider, what is the difference between an electric system or a hand operated system?

I have seen adjustable plate brackets for bikes that allow some rotation but a nut and bolt hold the plate securely in one position after the bracket that nut and bolt are tightened.

I have seen other plate brackets that let the plate move easily by hand. Ie, the rider can reach back and pull the plate up so its flat against the undertail.

A cop may see this.... 'Hmmm, so at high speeds the wind pushes your plate flat against the tail eh?? Here's a ticket'

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Rob MacLennan said:
That can't be triggered from inside the vehicle during operation, so it doesn't technically fit the definitions set forth in the HTA. A mechanically operated flip plate does, however, and so can get your plate confiscated and your vehicle towed. nfq posted the appropriate sections.
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So you just added words to the HTA to make your point. No where in the HTA does it say you can't have a license plate on a hinge. Period.
 
Splash said:
So you just added words to the HTA to make your point. No where in the HTA does it say you can't have a license plate on a hinge. Period.
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You can ignore it all you like. The section of the HTA and the logic behind it has already been stated.

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Gary64 said:
I'm surprised at the number of self admitted thieves there are stealing from the 407. There are plenty of free roads in the province that you can use without having to steal. As a toll paying 407 user, I'm subsidizing your use.
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lol you are funny..... Unless you were serious .... Then you are still funny
 
Splash said:
So you just added words to the HTA to make your point. No where in the HTA does it say you can't have a license plate on a hinge. Period.
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No, I give an example of something that would fit the definitions contained within the HTA. Disagree all you want. Just don't be surprised if a JP doesn't go along with you playing Perry Mason if you get charged for having a hinged plate.
 
caboose483 said:
Since the plate is easily within reach of the rider, what is the difference between an electric system or a hand operated system?

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Maybe sport bikes are different, but I don't think I could reach my plate on my DRZ without letting go of the handlebars. I'm not a gymnast.
 
imnothng said:
Maybe sport bikes are different, but I don't think I could reach my plate on my DRZ without letting go of the handlebars. I'm not a gymnast.
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Rob and caboose483 have 6' long arms... Makes sense, don't question them!
 
caboose483 said:
Since the plate is easily within reach of the rider, what is the difference between an electric system or a hand operated system?
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With some of them, you should also be able to load the rear suspension (sit back + open throttle) to get it to roll on the rear fender and go up...
If its mounted far enough in, that is.
 
imnothng said:
Maybe sport bikes are different, but I don't think I could reach my plate on my DRZ without letting go of the handlebars. I'm not a gymnast.
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A DRZ rear fender is pretty long. I'd agree that your plate is not within reach while riding but if you were at a red light or came to a brief stop you could likely reach it while still sitting on the bike.

A hinged plate is really only meant for one purpose, to hide your plate. There is no gas filler neck behind it. It doesn't matter what I think. The law is stated in such a way that if a cop feels like it, he can write a legitimate ticket for a hinged plate.

Splash said:
Rob and caboose483 have 6' long arms... Makes sense, don't question them!
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I guess you've never tried it? Its a bit awkward but I could reach the plate on my 10R that was mounted just below the tail light. I might have covered it with my hand for the 407 once upon a time.

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Splash said:
Rob and caboose483 have 6' long arms... Makes sense, don't question them!
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A couple of simple points:

I've seen people reach their foot back and block their plate with it on a sportbike, when hitting the 407 ramps. I've seen plates that are vertical when the bike is stopped but flap in the breeze when the bike is moving, because they're either mounted on hinges or key rings. I've seen plates that flip up when a lever that looks remarkably like a choke level is pulled. I've seen plates that are flipped up when a solenoid is activated by the push of a button.

All of these are illegal.
 
Going back to the original topic for a moment, here's the Competition Werkes fender eliminator from the OP for anyone who hasn't seen one in action (skip to about 1:30)

[video=youtube_share;EJ-4L1m6grE]http://youtu.be/EJ-4L1m6grE[/video]

Notice that it only swings toward the front of the bike so that the numbers are never hidden; only swings about 20 degrees or so; automatically springs back to normal position and is well lit by white light (well maybe you can't see the light in this vid but it's there). Mounting location might get you hassled but, as I've said, visibility is pretty much excellent except maybe for the toll cameras. I guess that's why I haven't been hassled by them (yet).
 
AF4iK said:
Going back to the original topic for a moment, here's the Competition Werkes fender eliminator from the OP for anyone who hasn't seen one in action (skip to about 1:30)

[video=youtube_share;EJ-4L1m6grE]http://youtu.be/EJ-4L1m6grE[/video]

Notice that it only swings toward the front of the bike so that the numbers are never hidden; only swings about 20 degrees or so; automatically springs back to normal position and is well lit by white light (well maybe you can't see the light in this vid but it's there). Mounting location might get you hassled but, as I've said, visibility is pretty much excellent except maybe for the toll cameras. I guess that's why I haven't been hassled by them (yet).
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ILLEGAL !!!

Caboose and Rob are really fantino and blair hahah

they make up laws as they go along lol
 
Paul1000RR said:
ILLEGAL !!!

Caboose and Rob are really fantino and blair hahah

they make up laws as they go along lol
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Actually it's illegal because it isn't clearly visible from the rear (partially obstructed by hugger and tire, to a following vehicle, and not mounted vertically.). Then there's the issue that the bike no longer has a mud guard, which is required by law.

If you think that I'm Fantino, then you haven't read anything that I've written over the last decade.
 
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