Ferguson Missouri

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-D- said:
True fact
All that military gear and military vehicles you see the police have, they HAVE to use them at least one in a year maybe 2 times in order to KEEP the equipment and to continue to get funding.


They damn well knew announcing the verdict that late would cause rioting.
As a US General stated, we attack the enemy under the cover of darkness in the battlefield because they can't see us easily.

kinda like starting a war for profit...let riots happen for the same reason...next year we need a BIGGER budget to buy RIOT gear and equip the TROOPS...can't say that wont happen...so more money handed out.

It's all a business, sounds cynical but think about it.
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+1, see post #2
 
Macs said:
I'd love to be away from my family in a deteriorating and violent situation, completely outnumbered with a big target on my back in the interest of making a buck. Wouldn't you?
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who says they have a family? I remember when the g20/g8 was in ontario how officers on the blue line message boards wrote about how they couldn't wait to kick some hippy ***. hippy *** was kicked. wouldn't be surprised if there were individuals on the police force stoked about the riots..
 
-D- said:
True fact
All that military gear and military vehicles you see the police have, they HAVE to use them at least one in a year maybe 2 times in order to KEEP the equipment and to continue to get funding.
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What's your source on that? (let me guess, it's a friend of a friend right?)
 
-D- said:
True fact
All that military gear and military vehicles you see the police have, they HAVE to use them at least one in a year maybe 2 times in order to KEEP the equipment and to continue to get funding.


They damn well knew announcing the verdict that late would cause rioting.
As a US General stated, we attack the enemy under the cover of darkness in the battlefield because they can't see us easily.

kinda like starting a war for profit...let riots happen for the same reason...next year we need a BIGGER budget to buy RIOT gear and equip the TROOPS...can't say that wont happen...so more money handed out.

It's all a business, sounds cynical but think about it.
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They get the equipment for free from the DLA. Sign some forms and they send you MRAPs and heavy duty gear leftovers from the military. They don't "have to" use them at all... in fact it costs them money to use it, because the maintenance certainly isn't free.

They shouldn't have the equipment to begin with, and this part has been under heavy scrutiny lately.. but you have some facts mixed up.
 
-D- said:
The Soldier signed up for WAR, you shoot at ppl they shoot back.
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The thug signed up for conflict with armed cops by engaging in violent criminal offenses. You endanger a cop's life, they shoot you
 
In related news....

http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/
NYT Reporter Who Published #DarrenWilson Address Calling Cops Nonstop
The New York Times journalist who published Darren Wilson’s home address wants police protection and has been calling the police nonstop, Gotnews.com has learned.

Julie Bosman “keeps calling the 020th District station complaining about people harassing and threatening her,” our source told us. She’s also “complaining about numerous food deliveries being sent to her residence.”

Chicago police department sources alerted Gotnews.com about the glaring double standard on Friday.
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My reaction:
[video=youtube;rX7wtNOkuHo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo[/video]
 
FiReSTaRT said:
The thug signed up for conflict with armed cops by engaging in violent criminal offenses. You endanger a cop's life, they shoot you
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You say that with 100% certainty but remember only 2 people were there and one is dead.
Just like the Zimmerman event.

Remember Rodney King...without that video we would be saying the same thing until we all saw the brutality involved.
just sayin'
 
Except for all those witnesses and the surveillance footage from the convenience store....


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-D- said:
You say that with 100% certainty but remember only 2 people were there and one is dead.
Just like the Zimmerman event.

Remember Rodney King...without that video we would be saying the same thing until we all saw the brutality involved.
just sayin'
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Wilson was a cop. Zimmerman just thought that he was. There is video of Brown committing a crime. At the very most there are reports (from Zimmerman) that Martin was "acting suspiciously." Witness statements regarding Brown being aggressive toward Wilson and getting into a confrontation with the officer are somewhat more reliable than those stating otherwise largely due to the variability in statements stating that the officer both instigated and escalated it, and inability to make such accounts fit the physical evidence. The only real witness to the Zimmerman/Martin incident is Zimmerman, himself. Wilson was duty bound to intervene. Zimmerman was not under any such onus and was, in fact, asked to remove himself from the situation before the incident occurred.

Apart from the skin colours of the people involved and who live, and who died, there's not a lot of commonality.
 
-D- said:
You say that with 100% certainty but remember only 2 people were there and one is dead.
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Yes... Because there is no evidence out there that Brown is a large-sized criminal thug :cool:
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Not to mention the two autopsies (and a third one coming up)
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Yes... Because there is no evidence out there that Brown is a large-sized criminal thug :cool:
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Seems to run in the family:

http://nationalreport.net/mike-brown...n-this-b-down/


Mike Brown’s Stepfather Arrested And Charged With Inciting A Riot After Commanding Protesters To “Burn This B**** Down!”

(Ferguson, MO) – Michael Brown’s stepfather, Louis Head, has been formally charged with inciting a riot after encouraging a horde of angry protesters to “Burn this b**** down!”. His actions took place directly following the grand jury’s decision not to indict Darren Wilson in the death of Michael Brown.

Brown was stopped by Wilson after he had manhandled a convenience store clerk during a robbery. When Brown refused to be apprehended, a scuffle ensued; Brown attempted to grab officer Wilson’s gun, resulting in Wilson using deadly force to protect himself from Brown’s attack.

In the weeks leading up to the subsequent hearing, several alleged witnesses came forward with so many conflicting accounts of what took place that most of it was proven to be fabricated or completely false. In the end, those who were attempting to portray Brown as the victim of a racist, trigger-happy cop were discredited by the officer’s account of what took place, as well as the autopsy results and a mountain of other documents that pointed to the contrary. This, however, was not enough to quell the public in their voracious quest to believe Brown was simply an innocent casualty of police brutality.

Despite the public statement which was read on behalf of the Brown family encouraging people not to resort to violence in the wake of the verdict, Brown’s mother, along with a handful of family members stood atop a car to express their outrage over the final ruling. As Brown’s mother began to weep, Louis jumped onto the car and began screaming expletives, urging the crowd to burn the city to the ground.

What followed was complete mayhem. Thousands of protesters, thugs and criminals took to the streets to loot businesses, destroy property, and gleefully wreak havoc. By morning, multiple businesses had been gutted, twelve had been completely burned to the ground. Multiple arrests were made, dozens were injured, and one young man was even discovered shot to death inside of his car.

Head’s commands for protesters to destroy the city of Ferguson following the ruling were video taped and later uploaded to the internet.

“Mr. Head Is Directly Responsible For The Way This Event Panned Out And We Plan On Prosecuting Him To The Fullest Extent Of The Law.”
Ferguson County DA, Dan Shaffer-

In a statement released early this morning by Ferguson County DA, Dan Shaffer, it was revealed that local officials will be prosecuting Louis Head for the crime of inciting a riot. “Mr. Head is directly responsible for the way this event panned out and we plan on prosecuting him to the fullest extent of the law. The damages sustained during the riots following Darren Wilson’s acquittal correlate directly with Mr. Heads actions in encouraging the crowd to act violently. We plan on pursuing this matter as soon as possible now that we have him in custody.”
Incitement of a riot is a major crime, listed as a class A Felony in MO. If convicted, Brown could face a minimum of 15 years in prison and a two hundred thousand dollar fine.

Brown was booked earlier today at the Ferguson County jail. He has since been released on ten percent of his one hundred thousand dollar bond. He is currently at home awaiting trial.
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FiReSTaRT said:
Yes... Because there is no evidence out there that Brown is a large-sized criminal thug :cool:
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I am not defending Brown.I am just asking about procedure.
There was a statement made by a lawyer that Wilson fired a shot and Brown was 125 feet away, so no danger there.

Unless Brown was strung out I don't see a normal person just attacking a Cop.
 
lol shot from 125' away yeah okay.... who comes up with this ****?

And of course normal people don't attack cops. Normal people also don't attack convenience store clerks.
 
-D- said:
I am not defending Brown.I am just asking about procedure.
There was a statement made by a lawyer that Wilson fired a shot and Brown was 125 feet away, so no danger there.

Unless Brown was strung out I don't see a normal person just attacking a Cop.
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Cite your source? You can't because it's not true.

The cruiser was 125' away but the cop was within arms reach of Brown.

Maybe do us all a favour and go read the evidence presented to the grand jury before you make yourself look any dumber.


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Lol 125' away.. Your typical cop would have a REAL hard time making a shot at that distance with a handgun. Had Wilson been anything but a typical cop (when it comes to handgun training) I would have heard about it.
 
FiReSTaRT said:
Lol 125' away.. Your typical cop would have a REAL hard time making a shot at that distance with a handgun. Had Wilson been anything but a typical cop (when it comes to handgun training) I would have heard about it.
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At 125 feet, under stressful conditions, ANYONE would have a difficult time registering multiple hits.
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