Ferguson Missouri

Poverty made her speed. That's not her claim, that's mine.


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can everyone on GTAM PLEASE use this an excuse next time you get pulled over..


Lady- Officer, you cant give me a ticket fopr speeding. Im poor !
Officer- Yes, i can see by your bank account. I also see you owe in 4 different counties.

Officer- Judging by your debt, we have to let you go, and if you incurr another 2k of debt, you will be eligible for 1 B&E charge dropped.
have a nice day
 
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can everyone on GTAM PLEASE use this an excuse next time you get pulled over..


Lady- Officer, you cant give me a ticket fopr speeding. Im poor !
Officer- Yes, i can see by your bank account. I also see you owe in 4 different counties.

Officer- Judging by your debt, we have to let you go, and if you incurr another 2k of debt, you will be eligible for 1 B&E charge dropped.
have a nice day
What excuse? She was speeding and was fined and that's the way it should be in my books. She was even OK with that. What I'm explaining is the cause for her actions.

Aren't you the one who just finished saying "relax dude'"?
 
i dont get your point ? are you suggesting that the police should only give tickets to those that can afford it ?

or should just that stretch of road be off limits for cops, cause poor people need to drive

in this instance for this woman, whats YOUR solution ? laws only count for people that can afford it ?

dont ticket poor people ?
What about abolishing those micro-municipalities which serve no function other than to pay the salaries of their administrators? I dunno, just an idea.

Give it some thought and let me know what you think should be done based on the realities on the ground, not based on your prejudices.
 
What excuse? She was speeding and was fined and that's the way it should be in my books. She was even OK with that. What I'm explaining is the cause for her actions.

Aren't you the one who just finished saying "relax dude'"?

yeah, i said relax, i wasnt targeting you....

but then you went and said something really really stupid. like poverty made her speed....lol

if anything, poverty would slow you down. better gas mileage, no worries from fines/tickets
better to drive lawfully while driving illegally ( without proper info )
 
yeah, i said relax, i wasnt targeting you....

but then you went and said something really really stupid. like poverty made her speed....lol

if anything, poverty would slow you down. better gas mileage, no worries from fines/tickets
better to drive lawfully while driving illegally ( without proper info )
Strange, it wasn't targeting me but it was in reply to my post... OK.

And yeah news flash; poverty induces illegal activity. And NO, that doesn't "excuse" it.
 
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I know your imagination is quite strong, so you seriously shouldn't have any problem conceiving how poverty might encourage people to break the law.

Would that fall under it's a reason(mildly) but not an excuse? While it's commendable that she's pulling herself up by the bootstraps can we give her a pass on rules of the road until such time she reaches a set earnings threshold? Sure, why not:rolleyes:
 
Would that fall under it's a reason(mildly) but not an excuse? While it's commendable that she's pulling herself up by the bootstraps can we give her a pass on rules of the road until such time she reaches a set earnings threshold? Sure, why not:rolleyes:


she had enough money to pay for her tattoo's.
probably has the latest I-phone and other gear
 
she had enough money to pay for her tattoo's.
probably has the latest I-phone and other gear

iphone?

obama phone!


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looters.....

scum.


would love to see a pic of the duck dynasty guys sitting on a roof of a fake store filled with fake stuff.

just waiting for some looters.... lol.. they also use the call of the looter. smashed glass and alarm bells while shouting obscenities...

dont ask. yes i am.
 
I welcome any informed opinion, you just didn't express any. You said...


She never cried racism or poverty in that article. In fact she took very honourably took responsibility for her condition despite the overwhelming weight of the nitpicking government administration on her shoulders. All the other charges snowballed from those fines for speeding (which we all do), which tiny derelict municipalities along the highway depend on for their survival. Sixteen towns along one ten-mile stretch. But you read about that.

Are you going to say that speeding fines are justified for safety purposes? That would be a first for GTAM. But I guess you read the part where a guy was charged with child endangerment even though he left his kids with a friend (because kids aren't allowed in court and of course anybody can afford a babysitter/nanny/daycare and the time to drive them back and forth)? You read about the woman who was unjustly pulled over because the cop didn't like the way she was driving? You read about the part where they outright fabricate crimes to issue more tickets? And setting up manually operated red lights to trap people into infractions?

Yes, of course I have sympathy for the woman who got caught up by all this and still doesn't complain.

In that different context you offer, I would not have sympathy for her. But then I wouldn't have sympathy for her if she hit a motorcyclist (or anyone) even if she was insured. Are you saying you would be sympathetic if she were a driving menace with insurance, rather than a safe driver without? Please explain.

Finally, driving is indispensable in those areas. They are entirely car-dependent neighbourhoods and that was very clearly described at great length in the article that you methodically read (twice). The towns were founded in the 50s and 60s, and that particular detail regarding the era they're from is at the heart of the institutionalized poverty problem they're faced with now. If you didn't catch on to that then you missed (twice) pretty much everything the article explains.

Driving is a privilege, not a right. It carries certain obligations, such as being insured, having your vehicle in good repair, and obeying the traffic laws. She chose not to. She could have avoided all the problems which came out of it by simply not breaking the law in the first place. Then she compounded it by failing to appear, another choice she made.
No, we don't all speed. I very rarely do. OK, so I ride a Harley which can barely get out of its own way, but I have complete control of the throttle and it's entirely up to me how fast I go. And it doesn't matter if the speed limit is for safety or for laughs, the fact is it's the law, there are large signs indicating that law and drivers can expect penalties if they disobey. The fact she had multiple infractions and still cries victim indicates to me that she's unwilling to take any responsiblity for her actions.
As for the other examples described in the article, all of the individuals claim they always acted politely and respectfully and within the law in every interaction they've had with the police. Just a regular church choir, apparently. Somehow, I have my doubts.
The whole article was written with a distinct slant and those who have similar beliefs, i.e., that personal responsibilty takes a backseat to playing victim at every opportunity, will swallow it whole and declare it gospel.
I'm sure that St. Louis County has its problems and it's not alone in that regard. But the article was so biased as to lose all credibility for me. For example, it often cited the huge disparity between the towns' black populations and the towns' overwhelmingly white councils. So my first question is, why is an electorate that is +80% black electing white councils when race is such an issue? How many qualified black candidates were there? Any? Why weren't they elected? Surely withover 80% of the voters being black, there should be at least some. For that matter, who votes in these elections? If the majority of black voters aren't excercising their rights (and personally I think voting is an obligation), it's on them and them alone. Those kind of omissions make the article suspect at best.
I know you'd like to think that anyone who doesn't come to the exact same conclusions you did somehow lacks reading comprehension but that's not the case. I think your mind was already made up before you read one word and all the article did was validate your own opinion. So be it. But don't question other people's acuity simply because they don't think the same way you do.
 
20% voter turnout. You can guess the rest.
 
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