True enough, but at 125' it wouldn't be all that stressful as long as the subject doesn't have a gun, so you could expand the field a bit... Still, it's not an easy shot by any means.
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True enough, but at 125' it wouldn't be all that stressful as long as the subject doesn't have a gun, so you could expand the field a bit... Still, it's not an easy shot by any means.
There was no 125' distance. The figure was pulled out of a dark place and it doesn't smell pretty. At the time when Wilson started firing, the distance was more like 10% of that.
Started with the summaries and working backward. A friend who also posts here has made it though most of it already.
*EDIT* To further muddy the issue the UK Daily Mail reported that Prosecutor McCulloch, in his press conference, said that Officer Wilson had fired his weapon while in his vehicle, during the initial confrontation, then again 10 more times when Brown was 125 Yards away (hitting him 6 or seven times). The level of misinformation with respect to this incident is mind numbing. They obviously didn't bother to watch the entirety of the statement, that they chose to post just a few seconds of (just over a minute out of a 25 minute long statement).
I haven't seen a link to the statement by McCulloch, but may have just missed it. At any rate, here it is:
[video=youtube;EuupBHUGbYo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuupBHUGbYo[/video]
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Six hits at 125 yards; they could retire the rest of the force!
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nothing to look dumb about
I was not there.
*source was attorney (neutral) speaking about it on tv, he asked the question based on what he read.
again, I have no vested interest in this.
cops should be outfitted with cameras in "sensitive areas" as a start to avoid these issues.
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no the lawyer said one shot was fired from that distance. They had that diagram out the Police released showing the location of the two and the casings on the ground.
You missed my point, by a rather large margin. The UK Daily Mail said this after the press conference; "In his announcement on Monday night, McCulloch revealed Wilson fired at Brown 12 times: twice from a car, then a further ten times in the street from 125 yards away."
Watch the press conference. Do you hear those words?
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uhm, now what
I will await since you got some egg to clean off:lmao:
Did you watch the video? If so, then what do you think it proves? Nowhere does it support the Daily Mail's assertion that the officer fired from 125 yards away. It doesn't support that he fired from 125 feet away. What it does support both in narrative and by recounting the physical evidence, is that there was a physical confrontation while the officer was still in his car, that two shots were fired there, and that Brown fled, was pursued by the officer, and that Brown then turned and approached the officer in some fashion.
*EDIT* Diagram of evidence collected at the scene of the shooting can be found here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/ferguson-diagram-of-the-scene/
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I finally got through the witness testimony I was looking for.
The first shots were fired during the altercation in the vehicle at point blank range.
The second and third volleys were at a range of 15-30 feet as Brown was advancing on Wilson. So there's that.
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The first shots were fired during the altercation in the vehicle at point blank range.
The second and third volleys were at a range of 15-30 feet as Brown was advancing on Wilson. So there's that.
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Which is also supported by the locations of the brass, in the diagram that I linked to. There's no brass in the 150-odd feet between the car and the place where Brown ultimately fell, indicating that no shots were fired as he was being pursued. The way that the brass is scattered at the body's location would also support that the officer was back-peddling at that point.
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I accept your apology.
You are not dumb.
As I said, none of us was there.
I was listening to a lawyer on tv referencing that chart and the evidence. He also asked about the 125 yards.
let's keep in mind, all this violence was for a few stolen cigarellos
he ran away from you the first time
did we really need guns blazing
how the hell did he think it would look if he killed the kid....which is what happened and look at the mess
was it worth it?
At the time I don't believe Sgt Wilson even knew about the convenience store robbery.
Brown and a friend were walkin down the middle of the street. Wilson in his cruiser came upon them and told them to get off the street (in what exact terms I don't know). Brown said unpleasant things to Wilson, Wilson tried to exit his cruiser but Brown slammed the door shut then assaulted Wilson. Two shots fired, one into Browns hand. Brown started to run and Wilson exited the vehicle to chase.
Another confrontation followed, Brown advanced on Wilson again and Wilson ended it.
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Brown and a friend were walkin down the middle of the street. Wilson in his cruiser came upon them and told them to get off the street (in what exact terms I don't know). Brown said unpleasant things to Wilson, Wilson tried to exit his cruiser but Brown slammed the door shut then assaulted Wilson. Two shots fired, one into Browns hand. Brown started to run and Wilson exited the vehicle to chase.
Another confrontation followed, Brown advanced on Wilson again and Wilson ended it.
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