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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?

mimico_polak said:
No clue, but I remember very well the discussion as that's where I originally wanted it.

'I can do it, but your pressure will drop a lot and you won't get much heat out of it, your money so you decide'

I bought enough JH siding to clad the house and shed so they're identical. If there's enough left over I may build a bbq station for the smoker.
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Pressure drop is easily solved with pipe size. My guess is installer was being lazy and just wanted to unroll 100' of flex and charge you. Pool heater here was plumbed with ~1.5" pipe. Decent run and 250k btu IIRC. Lots of pressure available (iirc 10" into regulator and 5" needed out of it).

The other option that is sometimes done is a high pressure supply line and local regulator. That is how they deal with standby generators that need a bunch of gas in some parts of US. No idea if anyone does this in canada.

If you want the thing as a focal point, go ahead but I dont see a huge upside to a smoker in a fancy shed. It is a long process with minimal attention required and if the weather is bad, I probably wouldnt cook that way. Bbq being snow free with no cover to remove and with a roof to protect me from rain meant it got used about once a week or more year round. Current system with canvas bbq cover means it gets used twice a winter. Smoker sits in the back corner and only gets used in the summer here.
 
Our natural gas BBQ is a weekly event all year round , yes there are lots of ways to make dinner , but I am inheirently lazy. Last night , whole head of califlower, seasoned and oiled, heirloom whole carrots , chicken , all goes on the grill. I wash one platter.
NG grill is a gift from the Gods
 
I have one of these Sojag grill gazebos. What Is the Purpose of a Grill Gazebo?

Bought it as the Sojag main gazebo we bought from Costco has been rock solid over multiple winters and storms. Really nice bit of kit but I needed to do a little work on the gutters with some small bolts to stop ice from making them sag a bit. Took 5 mins to add a bit of bracing to the middle portions.
 
Mad Mike said:
When I re-did mine I found my aluminum vented soffits had been installed over the existing plywood with 3x10 vents every 8 ' (esthetics over performance). I had 2 options to correct the ventilation:

1) Re & Re the aluminum soffits so I could remove the original plywood,
2) Install vents in the gables.

I elected option 2, and installed 2 gable end vents and a couple of whirlies on top. Worked like a charm!
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Unfortunately I don't have gables. Upper vents can be added simply with a saws-all and some shingles. It's the soffit stuff that's the problem.

My side split has two roofs. One is ~ 450 SF and the other ~600. I'm reading that I need three square feet of vent for the smaller roof and four SF for the larger. I assume that means three in and three out for the little one and four in four out for the larger.

The last roofer I spoke with suggested adding 10 soffit vents to each roof, plus more on top. The top isn't a problem but ten 3" vents is 7 square inches each = 70 SI total, far short of the 3 SF required (144 X 3 = 432 SI) More like 60 3" vents needed.

I need to drill some holes.
 
Mad Mike said:
$100 if you do my lawn (that's what I pay the guy tht goes door to door each spring. I can probably get you 10 yards.
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I'm too lazy to go through the patent thing but have come up with a better way. $1000 could pay for the prototype as the proof of concept worked well. But I'm too lazy.

I have good and original ideas. The good ones aren't original and the original ones aren't good.
 
crankcall said:
I'm surprised your pressure would be too low for an extention , but I have no idea how they calculate volume. Our last house needed a 3/4" supply line , Crown Verity grill with pretty serious btu's , I have the one here ( char broil ) at the back of the house on a 1/2" copper pipe to the outside then a 20ft flex hose and it can smelt aluminum.
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I had a 1/2" line @ 2PSI running to our CV 36... advertised at 70kbtus, it had a hard time smelting butter even with the reg removed. I know a few others with the same problem, they work well on propane, but I dont thing they are dialed in for natural gas.

.Switched back to my 15 year old Napo on 3/8x15' flexline -- she will smelt aluminum!
 
Mad Mike said:
I had a 1/2" line @ 2PSI running to our CV 36... advertised at 70kbtus, it had a hard time smelting butter even with the reg removed. I know a few others with the same problem, they work well on propane, but I dont thing they are dialed in for natural gas.

.Switched back to my 15 year old Napo on 3/8x15' flexline -- she will smelt aluminum!
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Damn, that's a lot of pressure for NG. Sounds like new bbq really screwed up the jets.
 
Speaking of gas lines, where's a good source for a longer propane line for bbq? About 15-20' long.
 
Mad Mike said:
I had a 1/2" line @ 2PSI running to our CV 36... advertised at 70kbtus, it had a hard time smelting butter even with the reg removed. I know a few others with the same problem, they work well on propane, but I dont thing they are dialed in for natural gas.

.Switched back to my 15 year old Napo on 3/8x15' flexline -- she will smelt aluminum!
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Propane has roughly 2.5X the BTU of NG per cubic foot and vastly different jet/orifice sizes due to that. Is it possible the CV36 others has, had propane jets, sounds like this fits their symptoms? Either by mistake by the manufacturer or someone tried to use propane unit on NG.

At min NG jets/orifices are required, as the orifice is larger for NG they can in theory be drilled out at your own risk. It has been a while but I have done the calcs then drilling before for the new orifice size to get the same BTU out of NG with great successes, YMMV.

Sadly going the other way NG to propane you need new jets as you can't drill a hole smaller.... Some makers sell them others refuse... Really the only real differences are the regulator and the jets/orifices.
 
backmarkerducati said:
Propane has roughly 2.5X the BTU of NG per cubic foot and vastly different jet/orifice sizes due to that. Is it possible the CV36 others has, had propane jets, sounds like this fits their symptoms? Either by mistake by the manufacturer or someone tried to use propane unit on NG.

At min NG jets/orifices are required, as the orifice is larger for NG they can in theory be drilled out at your own risk. It has been a while but I have done the calcs then drilling before for the new orifice size to get the same BTU out of NG with great successes, YMMV.

Sadly going the other way NG to propane you need new jets as you can't drill a hole smaller.... Some makers sell them others refuse... Really the only real differences are the regulator and the jets/orifices.
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Spiders

The NG BBQ that came with the house required disassembly every time it had to be lit because a spider found the hole just the right size for its nest. Propane was not a problem.
 
Have you ever looked up something from Home Depot on line for price and stock?

When you find the hardware item @ $2.00 you check inventory and find out you dialed in homedepot.com, the US site.
You switch to homedepot.ca and the price is $6.00.

I understand that the rate of exchange would make the price close to $3.00 CDN but $6.00????
 
nobbie48 said:
Spiders

The NG BBQ that came with the house required disassembly every time it had to be lit because a spider found the hole just the right size for its nest. Propane was not a problem.
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I would be rigging up a qr to allow me the blast compressed air through. It would take a little experimenting to get pressure right. 120 psi into something that expects 10" wc would probably go poorly.
 
nobbie48 said:
Have you ever looked up something from Home Depot on line for price and stock?

When you find the hardware item @ $2.00 you check inventory and find out you dialed in homedepot.com, the US site.
You switch to homedepot.ca and the price is $6.00.

I understand that the rate of exchange would make the price close to $3.00 CDN but $6.00????
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Amazon often has similar issues. Delivered to US is cheap, delivered to canada adds a huge shipping charge so final price is roughly equal to amazon.ca price.
 
GreyGhost said:
Amazon often has similar issues. Delivered to US is cheap, delivered to canada adds a huge shipping charge so final price is roughly equal to amazon.ca price.
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Problem is that Amazon.com has a lot more selection than Amazon.ca.

If there's a specific brand or model you want, sometimes you gotta pony up the cost of FX+shipping+duty.
 
Lightcycle said:
Problem is that Amazon.com has a lot more selection than Amazon.ca.

If there's a specific brand or model you want, sometimes you gotta pony up the cost of FX+shipping+duty.
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Agreed. I have looked at some products that were available on both before. For instance, LED strip lights that were $80 in canada were 25USD+30 shipping. Obviously shipping was priced to equalize cross-border prices and had very little to do with actual shipping price.
 
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