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Enough of COVID...what are you doing to the house?
- Thread starter mimico_polak
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Thank you! Always appreciate your input along with the rest of the group.
Is this what you said NOT to do?
Yes. Also dont convert your house to oil.
Yup, thats excactly the stylish siding install I like to see . I guess I get it, at the back of a cottage nobody will ever see , BUT... isnt that about $15 in a pipe nipple and a few minutes with a BFW to make it just look proper. I think he spent more time dinking about with trims and cutting than just fixing it would have cost.
sburns
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Yeah that kinda defeats the purpose if you leave exposed surface or entry point.
So you are doing exterior insulation now, not inside? (may have missed parts of the convo)
Aside. My parents moved into their bungalo after some renos. They did some stucco paint/layer non insulated on the outside of the house. Eventhough it's not insulated it seems to have made a bit of a impact by blocking airflow/wind, it's one of those double brick houses. I've noticed a difference visiting before and after.
double brick was one of our more historically poor building decisions , oil was cheap, masonary was cheaper. Right up with balloon framing for houses. Same applied for anything built near a beach , we need sand , well we are on the beach , beach sand is not the same as masonary sand ... close enough...
Nope, nothing missed. Still looking at both options.
I WANT to do the interior as I'd like to update the electrical, and properly insulate the house. Wife is against this option due to the disruption to the family during the work. My parental leave (if I take it) needs to be taken by end of April. I was hoping to push it out to summer so I can send the family to the cottage for a month or so, and work undisturbed. No such luck.
The exterior is a simpler / quicker install compared to the interior and MUCH less disruptive.
I'm looking at both options, and will let her decide which way to go.
If I do the interior insulation, the exterior will just get new cladding because I really do not like my brick / exterior.
Unfortunately I'm one of those people that needs to look at all the options before I pull the trigger. It's annoyingly slow at times.
EDIT: One thing I'm struggling with on the exterior is the following steps:
1. Glue on the insulation to the exterior of the house
2. Mechanically fasten the insulation to the exterior of the house?
3. Install strapping
4. How to mechanically install / connect the strapping to the house?
That's the part that's making me rack my brain as I can't seem to find a straight answer.
If it was plywood...it's easy. Glue the insulation and screw into the plywood (like my friend did at his cottage).
Effectively I could start installing the insulation today if I made the decision. Same goes for ripping out drywall. Can start that today if the wife gives the thumbs up.
I've done external insulation with metal z-bar and rigid foam as well as wood strapping with semi-rigid batts. I'm not sure what current best practice is. Since everybody needs external insulation now, drive around a subdivision under construction and see what the builders are doing. You can also look at suppliers info and see what their standard details are.
Current houses I've seen are over plywood so they're screwing it in. Then screwing in the strapping on top of the rigid insulation.
My biggest concern is what to use to secure it to the brick, and then ensuring I don't crack the strapping.
My buddy had a good suggestion...call a few contractors to get quotes, and ask them how they're going to do it so you understand.
Then just do that. And you'll get a nice estimate of what actual cost would be and whether it's worth having someone else do it.
That's a lot of fasteners penetrating your insulation layer. Without looking at a proper detail I'd be inclined to use a piece of angle or strapping as a bottom stop, put on insulation, then use a tapcon through the strapping and insulation to hold both on with one fastener. Now, the problem with that is you haven't improved your air barrier which is probably one of the bigger items to be addressed. I would think that tyvek and flashing tape done properly will do a hell of a lot for you. Not sure if this would cause you issues with crossing dew point in a bad place in the assembly though.
Does covering the brick hurt your resale? Personally I would never buy a house with siding over brick
Sent from the future
Sent from the future
Better than painted brick imo. A few neighbours have done painted brick or eifs over brick. Eifs house sold for a lot of money. Painted house wont be for sale for a while.
I'll PM you a photo of my brick...not the beautiful reddish colour that's popular. A dull, old, and weathered grey brick is what I currently have.
Ugh...didn't even consider the house wrap. I figured the insulation and siding was enough.
sburns
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Yeah whatever those reference houses are called, 2000 build something. Basically you are air proofing your house by wrapping it in plastic barriers. Some have almost no leakage you have to include a outside return into your heating.
It's sand / lime IIRC and soft, doesn't weather well.
I suspect it was the only thing available if you wanted light coloured brick. The alternate was a white glaze that spalled off when water got behind it.
I also suspect they don't make it anymore which is moot because a new brick would stand out like a sore thumb against the old stuff. On my place (Same stuff) every exposure has weathered differently.
That’s right our houses are practically twins.
This has been around for who knows how long…
Looks like Kevin tried to fix the issue…and gave up.
If there was a way to take off that brick and replace it or refinish it to a nicer look I’d consider it. I’m not aware of any way to renew brick. And I’m not painting it.
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