The Road Warrior
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Heh, you might be going down in CC's but you are going up in power and speed. I am sure that BMW can smoke your Busa.
do people who ride litre bikes have a lot of self control?
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Heh, you might be going down in CC's but you are going up in power and speed. I am sure that BMW can smoke your Busa.
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cbr125looksfun
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moral of the story... anything over 250cc's is entering overkill territory on the road unless you are a circuit racer. Nothing beats the flickability of the 125 
Like someone else said, it is just a status thing, you wont be using the bikes full potential so why burn the extra fuel?
Like someone else said, it is just a status thing, you wont be using the bikes full potential so why burn the extra fuel?
TYBALT71
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I think they are both great /but completely different beast, FYI , nope the Hayabusa is still the worlds fastest production motorcycle , 2001, the BIG 4 HON,KAW, SUK & YAM, collectively, 2001 detuning agreement put a stop the "The Speed Wars" and agreed to limit the bikes to 300kms/hr which i'm sure most are familar with-Ty, however willing to concede a better,faster,skilled rider could easily kick my azz on the BMW for sure but that doesnt reflect the machines, more the riders as factors and not a true indication of which bike is faster/quicker etc. and whether it's a straight line 1/4 mile race or road course etc. too many variablesHeh, you might be going down in CC's but you are going up in power and speed. I am sure that BMW can smoke your Busa.
The S1000RR was pitted against a Hayabusa recently, and was faster in every measurable way.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/N...0/may/may1910-video-hyperbikes-vs-superbikes/
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/N...0/may/may1910-video-hyperbikes-vs-superbikes/
Prince
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It's not working out well for BMW on the track tho. Just goes to show it takes more than HP to win races. Forget the Busa, Suzuki could release a PROM for the ECU to increase the GSXR 1000's BHP to 180 in the morning, but they don't. BMW is violating the HP restrictions on liter bikes, and is about to start another HP war. Regardless, BMW are getting their azz'es kicked in SBK and AMA. Haslam should have stayed with Suzuki. The BMW program is going to take years to translate into wins.
TYBALT71
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A restricted hayabusa, pre 2001, before detuning agreement , was the unrestricted Busa which holds still world record of 322/kms hr stock unrestricted production model, the BMW & Aprilla dont play be the same rules and it's not a great comparison, un-restrict the busa and the ZX-14 and see what happens, all unrestricted bike test, ans even the BMW unrestricted barely pulled off against a restricted Busa. Not a valid test IMO
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dizzy929
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Don't forget the BMW is fairly new to road racing. Which means it has limited development time compared to the others. Give it some time, the bike is pretty bad *** for a first effort from BMW.
I don't see why my answer would have anything to do with the type of bike I own. I was answering his question of how I can exercise self control. That's how. Pretty simple.
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redridernl
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The unrestricted Busa will have a higher top speed, it is not quicker. Any recent litre bike will out accelerate it.
TYBALT71
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Absolutely agree+1 -Ty
Prince
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Totally agree...the BMW is a very impressive bike. One has to wonder why they aren't playing by the "rules" so-to-speak. The big four are detuning the liter bikes. The 08 Gixx has slightly more HP and torque than than the 2009-2011. Matt Mladin stated "they couldn't pull the skin off pudding - slow as fook" (in his world). Honda dropped the HP most. And then BMW comes out with 180 HP out-of-the-box? Two points, it's very interesting to watch the BMW get smoked by less HP liter bikes with all that straight-line HP. And second, how are the big four going to react to this (very obvious) slap in the face? HP war?
It's gotta be a lot of fun when you are revving the **** out of it and riding it hard, no doubt about that but down low they are horribly weak and boring, especially if you are coming from bigger bikes such as Busa in your case or 1098 in mine. I tried an R6 and it sucked ***. ha ha
lol. i found the same thing. I have a busa, but bought a 636 as a nimble "track bike", cause everyone said 600's are more fun to ride.
although i loved the look of the 636 and it gave me an exhilarating rush of speed, i never rode it. it would sit there weeks on end, and not get ridden. i would ride it every once and awhile just so the battery wouldn't die and to mix it up a bit. but whenever i wanted to go for a ride, i took the busa out.
the 636 seemed like a toy. and it was just so buzzy compared the busa's "long legs" (it's smooth torque and comfy ergo's)
having said that, anything larger than a modern 600 and up requires gobbs of self control. i could have easily gotten into as much trouble on the 636 as the busa. all sportsbikes are ridiculously fast.
the litre bikes just get you there a "tad" earlier.
the only issue between a litre and a 600 is for a newb with poor throttle control (smoothness). I can see a newb looping a 1000+cc bike accidently far easier than on a 600
Notice how some of the discussion turned to performance numbers. For some that is the big factor on deciding which bike.
Next question should be how many of the people who say here that they have self control, have opened up the throttle at some time to feel the performance?
Not doing so would take a little bit of self control.
Next question should be how many of the people who say here that they have self control, have opened up the throttle at some time to feel the performance?
Not doing so would take a little bit of self control.
oh NO's!!! now you've gone and thrown down the gauntlet!!!!
the vid was fun to watch, yes. but it doesn't say the s100rr is faster in "every possible way". they just say buy the magazine, or what not.
but i'll assume that you have.
the busa was the worlds fastest production sportbike in 1999 at 194mph (plus or minus). THAT is what it was purpose designed for (top speed on the salt flats, not road racing). That is what it has it's reputation for. All busa's after 2001 have had their top speeds electronically capped at 189mph as a courtesy to the other bike manufacturers
(that cap is easily removed, BTW...cough, cough)
and a busa can be had for as little as $12,000 brand new. how much is a BMW 1000RR? How much is an Aprilia RSV?
and can either bike boast of the long distance sport-turing comfyness busa has???
(that being said, i am drooling over the Ducati 1198S's at GP bikes...only double the cost of a Busa)
edit: ooop's. i see that this has already been addressed by tybalt and others. sorry for the repeats.
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A busa all the way man... Switched to helibars and it's a super ride for long distance. I still have to get a gel seat though
the gel seat rocks. get one ASAP. I rode my '05 busa 14 hours straight to The GAP. only lost a little sensation in my right nut.
a truth lost on TAFB who brags incessantly of knee dragging sweepers while having 1" chicken strips.
I've heard that a lot of the road riders with no chicken strips tend to play chicken with cars coming the other way. Is that true?
