do people who ride litre bikes have a lot of self control?

No Im Mr. Substitutes Posting On GTAM for Actual Experience

You exercise self control on a 1000 just as you do on a 600 or a 400 or a 250; all fully capable of breaking speed limits and all fully capable of sending you to the morgue if you do the wrong thing. There's nothing magical or inherently dangerous about a liter bike with an experienced rider on board. You have fine muscle control in your wrist and [hopefully] a brain in your head to help 'tame the beast'. It's just another bike.
 
After nearly 30 years of riding I am finally starting to understand why insurance companies don't want younger people (no offence intended) on big bore sportbikes. Bad things can happen before good judgement kicks in. I love my 1200, with its' instant hp and torque. I also love its' turbine smoothness, and the fact that I don't have to bang 3 downshifts to get to my powerband. That being said, I have learned thru painful experiences of watching friends die, that I only play hard at the track. Now when some squid in a Civic with a fart tube on the back taunts me at a light; I just let him go--I KNOW I can smoke him, but it's not worth my time.
 
No Im Mr. Substitutes Posting On GTAM for Actual Experience

so someone posts a question on gtam, they must be substituting for actual experience. yup spot on. students in schools should not ask questions either, we don't want them substituting.
 
I take it you've ridden/owned 600s and literbikes then? Or is your experience limited to a dual sport...
 
I take it you've ridden/owned 600s and literbikes then? Or is your experience limited to a dual sport...

i take it that you like to constantly belittle people on the internet cuz you ride a faster bike than them. what a nice hobby to have. were you bullied as a child or just trying to overcompensate for a much smaller problem?
 
I ride my 250 like a maniac...but when I rode a CBR 1k I knew what type of a beast it was, so I was pretty controlled. Yet it had so much power I popped a lil power wheelie catching up to guy ahead of me in the demo ride. I had never experienced that ever...and it instantly put me in my place. But I had fun, and the size is awesome not too far off from a 250, I could easily flat foot and toss it around between my thighs.
 
You're screwed. Liter bikes are impossible to ride and you'll be doing 200 everywhere you go.
 
I have no problem controlling my speed whether I have 1000cc or 600cc under my butt. Or whichever car I may be driving. The only difference I find is that I can get up and go a LOT faster when I want to. Which I find far safer for things like passing. The fact the brakes are also better and it also handles better are also benefits for me (I'm talking my own bikes. I'm not interested in a debate about how 600cc handle better blah, blah, blah. My 1000cc has ABS, traction control and just plain handles far better than anything else I've ever ridden).
 
I can see how easy it would be for inexperienced rider to get in trouble on liter bike... For me, it's less of a trouble.
Take highway riding for example... even if you are doing everything right, cagers gets stupid near bikes... so if you get one sitting on your tail, inches away for miles, you observe your surrounding and road ahead (for possible radar-trap spots), if it looks cool, just twist the throttle get around couple of cars, and in few short seconds, problem solved.
On 600, you'd have to downshift, wind it up, make a lot of noise and possibly dumb cager will take that as race invitation... now you're speeding, making a lot of noise and looks like you're racing too...
Having said this - you do need self control as acceleration can be intoxicating :)
Pick your spots, do what you have to, slow down when done.
 
If you lack self control on the road take it to the track and see how poor a rider you really are - or rather how much better a rider you can become with practice. Speed is only status in the corner. Anyone can go fast straight.

The track took the need for street speed out of me and others I have talked to about this topic.
 
In the past 4 years I have ohnly ever owned litre bikes(R1), and yes i have been riding for 12 years and have progressed from 600's, but once I started riding them I realized actually what a better bike it makes for the street. Less shifting, dont have to keep it redlining to get power and for me I commute alot and that long first gear is perfect for me.
With alll that said, I mostly commute and dont get to enjoy the litre as much as I should, so now im in the process of debating to switch to more of a sport tourer type bike or maybe downsize.

If you can ride alot, and get out there, a litre bike is super fun as long as you have self control!
 
After nearly 30 years of riding I am finally starting to understand why insurance companies don't want younger people (no offence intended) on big bore sportbikes. Bad things can happen before good judgement kicks in. I love my 1200, with its' instant hp and torque. I also love its' turbine smoothness, and the fact that I don't have to bang 3 downshifts to get to my powerband. That being said, I have learned thru painful experiences of watching friends die, that I only play hard at the track. Now when some squid in a Civic with a fart tube on the back taunts me at a light; I just let him go--I KNOW I can smoke him, but it's not worth my time.

I think this should be quoted for posterity as it's absolutely correct.

By the way, I have a 750 and I find it to be a great allround bike. I can more or less potter round streets in first or second (mostly second) and there's plenty of get up and go when it's needed. Mind you...my bike also has upright ergos and makes way better sense to me than being leaned over the tank all the time.
 
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