Detroit Bankrupt

No, it's not up for debate. Go far enough back in history and our entire species are ALL descendants of people from Africa. This has been genetically proven. The human species has been around for much longer than that in Africa - a couple million years - but all of mankind from any place outside of Africa are descendants of a small group of people who left the African content via the Red Sea about 75,000 years ago.

While there is little question that Detroit has had more than its share of racial tensions over the years, the downfall of the city has more to do with the gradual exit of the auto industry from that city and the lack of anything else to replace it. You can blame the exit of the auto industry from Detroit on many factors - and there is no single overruling factor.

If you want to build an auto assembly plant in the USA now (or at any point in the last couple of decades), you don't build it in Detroit. You build it in the south - specifically, in a "right to work" state.

This.

I used to work for National Steel Car in Hamilton. During that time they were building a sister facility in Alabama.

This is the building, about a mile long. The city of Muscle Shoals was happy to receive them and have more employed citizens.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Muscl...+Shoals,+Colbert,+Alabama,+United+States&z=15
 
This.

I used to work for National Steel Car in Hamilton. During that time they were building a sister facility in Alabama.

This is the building, about a mile long. The city of Muscle Shoals was happy to receive them and have more employed citizens.

https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Muscl...+Shoals,+Colbert,+Alabama,+United+States&z=15

happy, plus wages are MUCH less, you dont heat the plant or a/c the place. Tax incentives are enormous for the manufacturer and the Americans in the southern "have not " states will get you lots of help with the environmental issues facing Canadian facilities.
 
So you don't think it has anything at all to do with European powers ****ing the continent up at all? It's all down to the colour of the skin of the current rulers? Nothing at all to do with how boats would land and take people forcefuly to use as slave labour? Nothing to do with how the white man would land and decide that he quite liked the country and that anyone not white would live as second class citizens in their own country?

What do you think North America would be like if half these things had happened here?

If you want to know why Africa is in a mess then I'll make a definitely racist statement for you......... it's the white man.

The white or Europeans would have been slaughtered and enslaved if the other side had the ability, smarts and technology to do it. And as far as slavery the Africans them selves actually provided the slaves to the slave traders from conquered tribes. To this day descendants of these tribes will joke around and say my great great grandfather sold your great grandfather.
 
I'm gonna quote a guy from another forum who put it pretty much exactly how i feel...

"One other exacerbating factor with Detroit and other cities is a welfare system that stops natural movement of the workforce. Many cities around the country have had a period of success followed by a bust when major industries failed.
Back in the bad old days, people would then migrate to other areas where they could find jobs.
Now, the welfare state allows them to stay put in an area where there just aren't enough jobs for the population. They can exist on welfare and other social programs, but at poverty levels. An area with a lot of people living at poverty levels without jobs breeds crime. People have to get money somewhere.
The increase in crime drives out the people who are educated, want to work, and have skills they can take elsewhere.
Once the working middle class decides that the negatives are too great to put up with, and they leave, you lose the tax base.
It becomes a death spiral for those who are left, with increasingly bad schools, higher crime and fewer jobs.
Increasing social programs does nothing to solve the problem of no jobs."


and regarding Africa. Just look at South Africa, prosperous country, very much like Canada who had the segregation problem. Look at it now, Blacks are in power and the country is in shitter, Afrikaan white farmers who fed the cities fled and now the farms lay in ruin, civil unrest, among highest crime per capita in the world. Basically in two generations destroyed what took hundreds of years to build.
 
happy, plus wages are MUCH less, you dont heat the plant or a/c the place. Tax incentives are enormous for the manufacturer and the Americans in the southern "have not " states will get you lots of help with the environmental issues facing Canadian facilities.

Much smaller wages don't allow those people to pay their share of taxes to keep the services running. The tax burden of those incentives for the manufacturers is transferred to the diminishing middle class. So on one hand, they're subsidizing the unemployed/underemployed and on the other hand they are subsidizing the rich. No wonder that country is going to hell in a handbasket. A nation needs a healthy middle class and it's being slowly cannibalized. Happening here too, but at a slower pace.
 
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No, it's not up for debate. Go far enough back in history and our entire species are ALL descendants of people from Africa. This has been genetically proven. The human species has been around for much longer than that in Africa - a couple million years - but all of mankind from any place outside of Africa are descendants of a small group of people who left the African content via the Red Sea about 75,000 years ago.

While there is little question that Detroit has had more than its share of racial tensions over the years, the downfall of the city has more to do with the gradual exit of the auto industry from that city and the lack of anything else to replace it. You can blame the exit of the auto industry from Detroit on many factors - and there is no single overruling factor.

If you want to build an auto assembly plant in the USA now (or at any point in the last couple of decades), you don't build it in Detroit. You build it in the south - specifically, in a "right to work" state.

"there is no single overruling factor"

They made crap cars and charged too much money for them.
 
Interesting facts.....in the 1940s-1950s Detroit was 98 percent white, Detroit had the highest average income per capita in north america. Now they are 98% non-white and have one of the lowest with an average of $15000!

and thats the facts jack..... case closed.
 
many of these comments are bordering on racist.....and ignorant of the actual history of Detroit. Spent alot of time there in the 80' and 90's....and lived next door from the 60's on. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but hopefully you've spent abit of time reading something about Detroit other than watching youtube videos.
Detroit's situation is sad....don't make it any more sad by making uneducated comments about what caused it's current situation.
 
many of these comments are bordering on racist.....and ignorant of the actual history of Detroit. Spent alot of time there in the 80' and 90's....and lived next door from the 60's on. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but hopefully you've spent abit of time reading something about Detroit other than watching youtube videos.
Detroit's situation is sad....don't make it any more sad by making uneducated comments about what caused it's current situation.


Lot's of vitrol. No substance.
 
have a look back at some of the posts linking economic decline to the rise of the percentage of black residents...

I'm talking about your post. You chastise everyone, but fail to say what (your opinion of) the problem was/is.
 
I knew what you meant. I wasn't chastising everyone.....read my post...."some" of the previous posts were borderline racist.
In all honesty the current situation of Detroit (in my opinon) is a result of a large number of factors......corporate greed (at the top), anti union sentiment, big three mismanagement, NAFTA, some geographic factors involving shipping/rail, municipal corruption, consumers wanting cheapest product regardless of global consequences (insert Walmart here).....feel free to add. Detroit isn't unique....but it is perhaps a prime example of the manufacturing industry in the more developed world.
None of them have to do with the % of whites or blacks or hispanics or any other population......the rise and fall of the population percentages WASN'T the cause as some have suggested.
 
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Well, I guess no more Chevy Volt and Chrysler 300, eh?

I don't get your point ... because Chevy Volt final assembly is in Hamtramck MI (part of Detroit), but Chrysler 300 final assembly is in Brampton. The auto manufacturers are unlikely to see any significant effect from the municipal bankruptcy. Private business will go on.
 
Interesting facts.....in the 1940s-1950s Detroit was 98 percent white, Detroit had the highest average income per capita in north america. Now they are 98% non-white and have one of the lowest with an average of $15000!

So the people with the money and good paying jobs left and the people running the company made crappy products while outsourcing jobs and still making their pile of cash thus leaving the people without the money behind.
What's the problem again? Oh right, let's blame the people left behind that were likely at the bottom of the jobs and cash pyramid.

You just saw a guy walk free for shooting and unarmed black teenager walking back home from the store.
btw- that killing occurred at 7:16pm yet they make it seem much later than that, even that juror B32 or whatever her name was said it was late at night.

Some of you posting really don't know jack squat about what you are talking about.
You have zero concept as to the workings of America.
Just enjoy your ignorance and thank whatever God your worship or living where you do.
 
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