Coyotes

That would be a young family out for a walk, not a hunting pack. Mom and dad will do mom and dad things to protect their kits, but there is little chance.

Those look like the scraggly coyotes I'd see roaming around when I lived in the desert south west, they control rodents and snakes but are smaller and more timid than the urban coyotes in the GTA.
As mentioned, this was just a photo I found that resembled how they were walking down my street. I never said it was a hunting pack, but they were all the same size and I wondered what would have happened if my wife and Maltese were walking there at the same time (very close to when she usually walks her).
 
That isn't significantly different than what happened nearby when a coyote went after a neighbour's dog, being walked on a leash in the public park. The coyote chased the dog through a full playground and was only distracted when someone threw something at it. The coyote didn't run off very far and continued to stalk.

More often than not.. when you hear about these incidents.. the person does exactly what they tell you not to do.
"stand you ground and don't run".. but most people do run... or hurry away... often triggering the animal from a curiosity to drive.. and get chased.
The more alarming incidents... like coyotes approaching and nipping old people at an old age home.. didn't happen suddenly. There was a build up to that sort of brazen behaviour.. The animals pushed the limits over time and people allowed them to do it until it got to that point..
 
More often than not.. when you hear about these incidents.. the person does exactly what they tell you not to do.
"stand you ground and don't run".. but most people do run... or hurry away... often triggering the animal from a curiosity to drive.. and get chased.
The more alarming incidents... like coyotes approaching and nipping old people at an old age home.. didn't happen suddenly. There was a build up to that sort of brazen behaviour.. The animals pushed the limits over time and people allowed them to do it until it got to that point..
It's the complacency that bothers me and we can't have a conversation with the coyotes about personal space. Something that scares or stings a bit but doesn't maim, works.

As far as public education goes, people have become too stupid.
 
As mentioned, this was just a photo I found that resembled how they were walking down my street. I never said it was a hunting pack, but they were all the same size and I wondered what would have happened if my wife and Maltese were walking there at the same time (very close to when she usually walks her).

If you have that many in your area.. Your wife and dog have been a lot closer to them than she, or you, think.. or want to know.
 
More often than not.. when you hear about these incidents.. the person does exactly what they tell you not to do.
"stand you ground and don't run".. but most people do run... or hurry away... often triggering the animal from a curiosity to drive.. and get chased.
The more alarming incidents... like coyotes approaching and nipping old people at an old age home.. didn't happen suddenly. There was a build up to that sort of brazen behaviour.. The animals pushed the limits over time and people allowed them to do it until it got to that point..
100%. Coyotes are pretty small, I've been bitten by much bigger canines. Stand your ground and if they still want to fight, try to keep your chin down to protect your neck and do whatever it takes.. You'll take some damage but win.
 
100%. Coyotes are pretty small, I've been bitten by much bigger canines. Stand your ground and if they still want to fight, try to keep your chin down to protect your neck and do whatever it takes.. You'll take some damage but win.
Rabies?
 
If I can't get away, my best bet is to kill it. That way it can get tested. Otherwise they assume rabies and I need the shots.
Just may sure you oil up before your Coyote death matches...
 
It's the complacency that bothers me and we can't have a conversation with the coyotes about personal space. Something that scares or stings a bit but doesn't maim, works.

As far as public education goes, people have become too stupid.

They're only complacent because people allowed them to be..
If you feel like one is invading your space... get big and loud.. walk towards it.. it'll move.
If you think you're being "stalked".. again.. get big and loud.. turn and walk towards it.. it will move.
Don't stop when it moves a few feet and turns back to look at you.. keep going.. drive it right off..
That's the kind of "conversation" they understand..

There's lots of info out there about conditioning.. or hazing.. coyotes.
 
The thing about rabies is that unless they can PROVE the animal that bite you DID NOT have rabies, you get the shots. You have to kill the pathogen before it infects you, if you get rabies: you die. End of story.

I live in the country and haven't seen a coyote since i left Mississauga. I saw a moose last year... but they usually don't bite. My sister was once bit by a moose....
That's why it's helpful to kill the stupid thing that bit you. If it bit you unprovoked, it's probably going to do it again so somebody needs to kill it. Might as well get that step out of the way and hopefully avoid shots.
 
The thing about rabies is that unless they can PROVE the animal that bite you DID NOT have rabies, you get the shots. You have to kill the pathogen before it infects you, if you get rabies: you die. End of story.

I live in the country and haven't seen a coyote since i left Mississauga. I saw a moose last year... but they usually don't bite. My sister was once bit by a moose....
 
We hear them most nights, see them at least weekly in the yard. If I'm working in the garage I usually walk to the treeline to pee but sometimes I just go outside the rear door (pee on the stones to keep weeds from growing up). Once I was peeing outside the door in the dark and heard a rustling behind the shed. I figured it was likely a raccoon/porcupine/etc but nope this time it was a coyote who trotted by about 20ft away and paid no attention to me.
They don't come around closer when we're outside but if I walk outside and they're close by they leave.
If they get brazen they'll be taken care of.
 
They're only complacent because people allowed them to be..
If you feel like one is invading your space... get big and loud.. walk towards it.. it'll move.
If you think you're being "stalked".. again.. get big and loud.. turn and walk towards it.. it will move.
Don't stop when it moves a few feet and turns back to look at you.. keep going.. drive it right off..
That's the kind of "conversation" they understand..

There's lots of info out there about conditioning.. or hazing.. coyotes.
This time of year coyotes raising young will protect a zone around their den or their pack of kits. If anything goes in that zone (you, kids, dogs) , they attempt to escort them out. If you turn, they might stop, but they won't back down. If you approach, they will snarl and bounce around... but they won't back down. Get too close and they might bite.

If you see a coyote walking with you, just keep going, it will turn away once your out of their zone. If you have dog smaller than 25lbs, pick it up -- coyotes can be aggressive toward small dogs.
 
This time of year coyotes raising young will protect a zone around their den or their pack of kits. If anything goes in that zone (you, kids, dogs) , they attempt to escort them out. If you turn, they might stop, but they won't back down. If you approach, they will snarl and bounce around... but they won't back down. Get too close and they might bite.

If you see a coyote walking with you, just keep going, it will turn away once your out of their zone. If you have dog smaller than 25lbs, pick it up -- coyotes can be aggressive toward small dogs.
A dog walker told my wife to not pick up a small dog as it can be interpreted as grabbing one of the pack.
 
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