I genuinely do not think everyone should get vaccinated and here's why:
The vaccine does not make anyone impervious to the virus, it also does not prevent a person from spreading the virus. Two points I'm sure we can all agree on, correct? What the vaccine does do is lessen the effects of the virus and to some degree lessen the chances of getting the virus (recent numbers dictate). If you look at the age ranges, severity of outcome and probability of death increase with age, this has been known since it broke in Italy in Jan/Feb 2020. Vaccinating (nearly) everyone creates the problem that younger and/or healthier people that would have gotten mildly sick without the vaccine now become spreaders without any symptoms. Before vaccines were available they may have gone three days asymptomatic and then stayed at home for a week, now they can go five or eight days with no downtime. Vaccinating can ironically increase the Ro. I firmly understand this will be an unpopular view here, but it is almost identical to people that don't feel pain. Sounds great until you find out that we need pain to survive. People that don't feel pain are all dead by the age of 30. Before anyone assumes I'm saying noone should get vaccinated let me make this very clear. People that are at an elevated risk of dying from this should choose to be vaccinated, no question. Whether it's age, or comorbidities that are their deciding factors, I completely support them.
I get your argument, but I thinks it's a selfish one. As an individual you get a lot of benefits from living in a community/society. Sometimes you're asked to consider the wellbeing of others, not just yourself. Vaccines are proven to break the transmission chain, reduce numbers of infected people period. Not just covid, but in every communicable disease known to man. This does a couple of things:
Vaccines do a few of things:
Interrupt the transmission network. When a vaccinated person's body fights off the infection, they may not contract and spread, or they will get a mild form that fights off faster thanks to the vax. To imply Ro would be lower if the healthy were unvaccinated crazy Facebook University stuff, there is no string of events where this could happen.
Protect against infection OR reduce severity of breakthru infections. This means fewer visit the hospital, and morgue.
Reduce mutations. Nobody can say for certain "O" would not be here if Africa was 80% vaxed -- but chances are good that would be the case. The more infected, the more chance of mutation -- like Ro, chances of mutations is an increasing odds math game.
Respects the sacrifice health care workers have made to help us. How does the selfish antivaxer's contribution to the greater good compare to the nurse who's worked 24 mos without a vacation, in HASMAT conditions, continuing on every day now to mostly save antivaxers? Perhaps thos health care workers could get a break, or divert their energy into helping other sick people get their lives back to healthy.
Secondly, since we don't and can't have a firm grasp on what the long term effects of the vaccine are, I don't see the benefit of vaccination, for someone who's most likely outcome without vaccination is the sniffles. Let's assume in 15 years time it is discovered there is a seious side effect to this vaccine. The unhealthy that probably didn't have 15 years left under the best circumstances benefited greatly from the vaccine. However, the 13 year old that is now 28 may have to live the next 50 years with whatever potential side effects may come. The cure could be worse than the disease.
MNRA and spike proteins research has been going on for decades. Turns out your body doesn't much care for them, they are gone a few weeks after your injection. By then your immune system is 'trained' and they vaccine components are no longer needed. Your long term argument is coming from another Facebook University course.
Lastly, as much as many here don't agree with Trackrats views, he brought up an excellent point. I have yet to hear an unvaccinated person claim that if you get vaccinated and end up with myocarditis you should be denied healthcare. Even on this, a motorcycle forum of all the hypocritical places, I've read members saying that unvaccinated don't deserve healthcare if they get covid. That is no different than a car driver claiming the motorcyclist they hit doesn't deserve an ambulance because they chose to ride a motorcycle.
The myocardis argument is another red herring. A small percentages of young healthy males (11/million people) present with mild Myocarditis, that clears up with no long term health implications. Covid infected young males contract myocardis at a rate of 110/m. Hmmm, to vax or not to vax?
To be honest, the dive society has taken scares me way more than the virus that caused it.
I will agree on your last point.
