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Covid booster

Bleeping vasectomy doctor. I would have done better myself. I wasn't frozen. I told him I wasn't frozen. He got ****** when I accidentally kicked him when he cut me and I wasn't frozen.
Love my vasectomy doctor...easy peasy. No issues, no pain (except I probably shouldn't have raked / blown the leaves the next morning).

I didn't even have time to find Waldo on the ceiling! Guess if I had the second nut still I'd find Waldo....ah well.

Wife in the morning: I'm pregnant with #3
Me that same morning: Hi doctor...can I get a referral for a vasectomy please?

Snippy snip 2 weeks later.
 
I genuinely do not think everyone should get vaccinated and here's why:
The vaccine does not make anyone impervious to the virus, it also does not prevent a person from spreading the virus. Two points I'm sure we can all agree on, correct? What the vaccine does do is lessen the effects of the virus and to some degree lessen the chances of getting the virus (recent numbers dictate). If you look at the age ranges, severity of outcome and probability of death increase with age, this has been known since it broke in Italy in Jan/Feb 2020. Vaccinating (nearly) everyone creates the problem that younger and/or healthier people that would have gotten mildly sick without the vaccine now become spreaders without any symptoms. Before vaccines were available they may have gone three days asymptomatic and then stayed at home for a week, now they can go five or eight days with no downtime. Vaccinating can ironically increase the Ro. I firmly understand this will be an unpopular view here, but it is almost identical to people that don't feel pain. Sounds great until you find out that we need pain to survive. People that don't feel pain are all dead by the age of 30. Before anyone assumes I'm saying noone should get vaccinated let me make this very clear. People that are at an elevated risk of dying from this should choose to be vaccinated, no question. Whether it's age, or comorbidities that are their deciding factors, I completely support them.

Secondly, since we don't and can't have a firm grasp on what the long term effects of the vaccine are, I don't see the benefit of vaccination, for someone who's most likely outcome without vaccination is the sniffles. Let's assume in 15 years time it is discovered there is a seious side effect to this vaccine. The unhealthy that probably didn't have 15 years left under the best circumstances benefited greatly from the vaccine. However, the 13 year old that is now 28 may have to live the next 50 years with whatever potential side effects may come. The cure could be worse than the disease.

Lastly, as much as many here don't agree with Trackrats views, he brought up an excellent point. I have yet to hear an unvaccinated person claim that if you get vaccinated and end up with myocarditis you should be denied healthcare. Even on this, a motorcycle forum of all the hypocritical places, I've read members saying that unvaccinated don't deserve healthcare if they get covid. That is no different than a car driver claiming the motorcyclist they hit doesn't deserve an ambulance because they chose to ride a motorcycle.

To be honest, the dive society has taken scares me way more than the virus that caused it.

Those are valid points. Earlier I made analogy about stomping out every little forest fire thus allowing tinder boxes to develop with the end result being catastrophic forest fires instead of a few little ones. So where do we draw the line?

Was the polio vaccine a mistake?

What vaccine was supposedly based on monkey blood, an obvious conspiracy by the banana growers to encourage consumption.

Maybe we should let all diseases run their course and not meddle with mother nature's evil side. We could have a super race. Ban all vaccines and cancer research as well. Darwin rules!

Broke your leg? Set it yourself and be smarter next time. No other animal sets it's own bone breaks.

Ban intervention.

The forest fire issue would also depend on whether people had homes in the forests. Do we let them burn?

Hell, why even have fire departments in the city?

If someone is dumb enough to smoke in bed after downing a 26er they don't deserve a house anyway. If their kids die as well they may have inherited the parental mental DNA. Clean the gene pool.

I prefer people that are vaxxed but don't feel it should be mandatory. However the unvaxxed should not be allowed to endanger me. I have no problem with people driving cars that have no brakes but they aren't allowed on public roads. They can enjoy their risks on their own property.

If you don't want the jab feel free to start your own business on your own island with your own rules at your own expense.

Damn I'm in a nasty mood this morning.
 
Love my vasectomy doctor...easy peasy. No issues, no pain (except I probably shouldn't have raked / blown the leaves the next morning).
We took the kids to the Toronto zoo the next day. Walked around for hours. Paid for it the day after.
You haven't lived till you've seen smoke rise from your nuts from the cauterizing.
 
I have a booster shot booking in Georgetown (Fresco) at 1:05PM on January 3rd. Thanks @Robbo for the heads up that let me scoop this a week or so back when I expected to not be able to get a shot before February once main bookings opened. I was quite happy to have this when others in the area were going to be waiting into February, especially since I'm in a risk group.

However, yesterday, I lucked out and managed to get an appointment local to me on the 27'th, so I'll be cancelling the Georgetown one.

Anyone here want it? We can coordinate me cancelling it and then it hopefully popping up as available again in their online system to be scooped up right away.
 
Got mine today. I wanted Moderna since I had that for both my first and second, but the pharmacy 5 mins away had Pfizer spots today, so I went for it.

Arm kind of hurts.
 
I genuinely do not think everyone should get vaccinated and here's why:
The vaccine does not make anyone impervious to the virus, it also does not prevent a person from spreading the virus. Two points I'm sure we can all agree on, correct? What the vaccine does do is lessen the effects of the virus and to some degree lessen the chances of getting the virus (recent numbers dictate). If you look at the age ranges, severity of outcome and probability of death increase with age, this has been known since it broke in Italy in Jan/Feb 2020. Vaccinating (nearly) everyone creates the problem that younger and/or healthier people that would have gotten mildly sick without the vaccine now become spreaders without any symptoms. Before vaccines were available they may have gone three days asymptomatic and then stayed at home for a week, now they can go five or eight days with no downtime. Vaccinating can ironically increase the Ro. I firmly understand this will be an unpopular view here, but it is almost identical to people that don't feel pain. Sounds great until you find out that we need pain to survive. People that don't feel pain are all dead by the age of 30. Before anyone assumes I'm saying noone should get vaccinated let me make this very clear. People that are at an elevated risk of dying from this should choose to be vaccinated, no question. Whether it's age, or comorbidities that are their deciding factors, I completely support them.
I get your argument, but I thinks it's a selfish one. As an individual you get a lot of benefits from living in a community/society. Sometimes you're asked to consider the wellbeing of others, not just yourself. Vaccines are proven to break the transmission chain, reduce numbers of infected people period. Not just covid, but in every communicable disease known to man. This does a couple of things:

Vaccines do a few of things:
Interrupt the transmission network. When a vaccinated person's body fights off the infection, they may not contract and spread, or they will get a mild form that fights off faster thanks to the vax. To imply Ro would be lower if the healthy were unvaccinated crazy Facebook University stuff, there is no string of events where this could happen.

Protect against infection OR reduce severity of breakthru infections. This means fewer visit the hospital, and morgue.

Reduce mutations. Nobody can say for certain "O" would not be here if Africa was 80% vaxed -- but chances are good that would be the case. The more infected, the more chance of mutation -- like Ro, chances of mutations is an increasing odds math game.

Respects the sacrifice health care workers have made to help us. How does the selfish antivaxer's contribution to the greater good compare to the nurse who's worked 24 mos without a vacation, in HASMAT conditions, continuing on every day now to mostly save antivaxers? Perhaps thos health care workers could get a break, or divert their energy into helping other sick people get their lives back to healthy.


Secondly, since we don't and can't have a firm grasp on what the long term effects of the vaccine are, I don't see the benefit of vaccination, for someone who's most likely outcome without vaccination is the sniffles. Let's assume in 15 years time it is discovered there is a seious side effect to this vaccine. The unhealthy that probably didn't have 15 years left under the best circumstances benefited greatly from the vaccine. However, the 13 year old that is now 28 may have to live the next 50 years with whatever potential side effects may come. The cure could be worse than the disease.
MNRA and spike proteins research has been going on for decades. Turns out your body doesn't much care for them, they are gone a few weeks after your injection. By then your immune system is 'trained' and they vaccine components are no longer needed. Your long term argument is coming from another Facebook University course.
Lastly, as much as many here don't agree with Trackrats views, he brought up an excellent point. I have yet to hear an unvaccinated person claim that if you get vaccinated and end up with myocarditis you should be denied healthcare. Even on this, a motorcycle forum of all the hypocritical places, I've read members saying that unvaccinated don't deserve healthcare if they get covid. That is no different than a car driver claiming the motorcyclist they hit doesn't deserve an ambulance because they chose to ride a motorcycle.
The myocardis argument is another red herring. A small percentages of young healthy males (11/million people) present with mild Myocarditis, that clears up with no long term health implications. Covid infected young males contract myocardis at a rate of 110/m. Hmmm, to vax or not to vax?
To be honest, the dive society has taken scares me way more than the virus that caused it.
I will agree on your last point.
 
@jc100 I read that somewhere else too recently, although in an easier format to understand LOL...so for those of us who are vaccinated AND get a breakthrough infection after the fact, their immunity is much better than with a booster shot is the way I understood it...
My wife can look forward to that. We spent 10 the last 10 days in the same house, the first 5 in husband-wife proximity. I did not get sick, nor did one of our sons who spends an hour or tw a day here. The vaccines appear to have protected us.

Her doctor confirmed she contracted "O", as a breakthrough -- she is double vaxed. She was 'bad cold' sick for about a week, bad cough, mild fever, sneezy. And grumpy - not sure that was Covid or me being locked in the house 24x7. Hopefully tomorrow's test will confirm she's over it.

She happier...and looks younger.
 
I get your argument, but I thinks it's a selfish one. As an individual you get a lot of benefits from living in a community/society. Sometimes you're asked to consider the wellbeing of others, not just yourself. Vaccines are proven to break the transmission chain, reduce numbers of infected people period. Not just covid, but in every communicable disease known to man. This does a couple of things:

Vaccines do a few of things:
Interrupt the transmission network. When a vaccinated person's body fights off the infection, they may not contract and spread, or they will get a mild form that fights off faster thanks to the vax. To imply Ro would be lower if the healthy were unvaccinated crazy Facebook University stuff, there is no string of events where this could happen.

Protect against infection OR reduce severity of breakthru infections. This means fewer visit the hospital, and morgue.

Reduce mutations. Nobody can say for certain "O" would not be here if Africa was 80% vaxed -- but chances are good that would be the case. The more infected, the more chance of mutation -- like Ro, chances of mutations is an increasing odds math game.

Respects the sacrifice health care workers have made to help us. How does the selfish antivaxer's contribution to the greater good compare to the nurse who's worked 24 mos without a vacation, in HASMAT conditions, continuing on every day now to mostly save antivaxers? Perhaps thos health care workers could get a break, or divert their energy into helping other sick people get their lives back to healthy.



MNRA and spike proteins research has been going on for decades. Turns out your body doesn't much care for them, they are gone a few weeks after your injection. By then your immune system is 'trained' and they vaccine components are no longer needed. Your long term argument is coming from another Facebook University course.

The myocardis argument is another red herring. A small percentages of young healthy males (11/million people) present with mild Myocarditis, that clears up with no long term health implications. Covid infected young males contract myocardis at a rate of 110/m. Hmmm, to vax or not to vax?

I will agree on your last point.
Your argument is also a selfish one, you're also making many unsubstantiated claims here, and it needs sauce.
 
Your argument is also a selfish one, you're also making many unsubstantiated claims here, and it needs sauce.
Go ahead... prove them wrong.
 
@Mad Mike good to hear she's almost over it...question though, why is she getting retested?...I've been told that people who test positive shouldn't be getting tested anytime soon because they can test positive for many weeks afterwards...in fact, Halton Public Health's handout specifically says not to retest because of that...
 
I was listening to 680 this morning and there was a clip about an AZ booster…first I heard of this.

They’re apparently not being offered here but other parts of the world may be getting them.
 
@Mad Mike good to hear she's almost over it...question though, why is she getting retested?...I've been told that people who test positive shouldn't be getting tested anytime soon because they can test positive for many weeks afterwards...in fact, Halton Public Health's handout specifically says not to retest because of that...
My daughter is a nurse, she's providing the same guidance as her hospital staff follow. If her antigen test is negative, then she can do a PCR. You are correct that PCR tests can come back positive for a while, but for double vaxed victims that bounce back quickly, it's common to be negative 5 days after the fever subsides.

Right now it's wait and see.
 
My daughter is a nurse, she's providing the same guidance as her hospital staff follow. If her antigen test is negative, then she can do a PCR. You are correct that PCR tests can come back positive for a while, but for double vaxed victims that bounce back quickly, it's common to be negative 5 days after the fever subsides.

Right now it's wait and see.
Hospitals are trying to come up with a suitable policy for their staff. If they followed Provincial guidelines there wouldn't be enough staff available to work. They are trying to determine where the guidelines can be altered with minimal risk.
 

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