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We have friends who have told us we are over-reacting when we told them we would visit them one-on-one and not in a crowded public place. There's still this distrust of the media, especially among right-wingers, and they think they are the ones being "clear and level-headed" while the rest of the world panics for no reason.

Although I'm shaking my head at them, I know they are also shaking their heads at us.

Plan for the worst, hope for the best.

I am with you Gene, boss wanted to take all the managers out for beers on Friday night. I declined, told him I am trying to minimize the risk of catching this thing. So glad I don’t have to use public transportation.

I don’t care about being labeled over cautious at this point.
 
You passed up free beer?? Stronger and smarter than me! My neighbour has family in Italy where their whole city is in lock down. Strange seeing cars in neighbors driveways on the weekend and all plans of ours have been cancelled this weekend and forthcoming. Just cancelled my flight to Florida for months end and San Diego next month has also been cancelled which sucks, but the health of the planet and its people is what is most important. Be well everyone. Anyone here go to Dover on Friday? Pics show it looked pretty quiet.
 
Wife and I decided to go out for a drive this afternoon but no plans of stopping off anywhere.
Five minutes from home I spot a pedestrian carrying tp so we pull a u-turn and head for the plaza we just passed. Sobeys had a 25 case delivery of Cottonelle Ultra3 12-packs that got scooped up in a matter of minutes.
Wife asked a guy if he needed all that he had grabbed and he smiled and handed her a pack.
There are good people out there .


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On another forum, another chap has constructed a mathematical model of this, which fits what has happened so far pretty well. It's predicting somewhere near a quarter-million total known cases (currently it's around 168,000) and about 18,000 deaths.

This appears to be based on the USA following Italy's trajectory in terms of per-capita cases and deaths ... which, so far, it is. Everyone knows the number of cases reported is way behind the actual number, but the deaths are hard to ignore. In terms of number of deaths, the USA is about where Italy was on 3rd or 4th March (so a week and a half behind). Per-capita, it's about a week behind that again. And, a week has gone by since Italy went on lockdown.

In order for this to happen, this predicts a USA lockdown - whether forced or voluntary - late March early April, and I'd say that's plausible. Sooner than that, I don't think it will happen, partly a combination of politicians being in denial and partly the population itself is in denial and wouldn't go along with it even if the politicians tried. A couple weeks from now, if the current trajectory continues, it will be plainly apparent to both the politicians and the general population that this is what needs to be done.

Mitigating factors ... a lot of events are already being cancelled or postponed, lots of workplaces are already directing people to work from home, which might prevent the worst-case scenario from playing out. But it''s still going to be bad. The number of reported deaths is still in an exponential-growth phase with no sign of slowing down.

The good thing is that the model predicts the actual number of total cases will level off in a couple of weeks (bear in mind that there is a time lag of a week or two between someone getting infected and that being reported in the actual numbers - this coincides with my estimate of when the USA goes into lockdown), the number of reported cases leveling off a couple weeks after that. So we've got about a month of things getting worse before they start getting better.

The bad thing ... Half of the total deaths from this pandemic will be from the USA. If they do the lockdown when I think they should do it (a week from now), as opposed to when I think they will actually do it (a week later), that number will be better. If they try to delay the inevitable or if the US population revolts, that number will be a lot worse.

Exponential-growth models are extremely sensitive, so this prediction WILL be wrong in some way. But ... it's a prediction.

Hunker down and buy supplies. But don't bother with the excess toilet paper.
 
Almost all the numbers are way up today:

Antarctica has not made the list yet,
they should definitely lock down.
everybody else :unsure: to what avail? stop the next pandemic? might work.

Not very many contrails over head today!
 
On another forum, another chap has constructed a mathematical model of this, which fits what has happened so far pretty well. It's predicting somewhere near a quarter-million total known cases (currently it's around 168,000) and about 18,000 deaths.

This appears to be based on the USA following Italy's trajectory in terms of per-capita cases and deaths ... which, so far, it is. Everyone knows the number of cases reported is way behind the actual number, but the deaths are hard to ignore. In terms of number of deaths, the USA is about where Italy was on 3rd or 4th March (so a week and a half behind). Per-capita, it's about a week behind that again. And, a week has gone by since Italy went on lockdown.

In order for this to happen, this predicts a USA lockdown - whether forced or voluntary - late March early April, and I'd say that's plausible. Sooner than that, I don't think it will happen, partly a combination of politicians being in denial and partly the population itself is in denial and wouldn't go along with it even if the politicians tried. A couple weeks from now, if the current trajectory continues, it will be plainly apparent to both the politicians and the general population that this is what needs to be done.

Mitigating factors ... a lot of events are already being cancelled or postponed, lots of workplaces are already directing people to work from home, which might prevent the worst-case scenario from playing out. But it''s still going to be bad. The number of reported deaths is still in an exponential-growth phase with no sign of slowing down.

The good thing is that the model predicts the actual number of total cases will level off in a couple of weeks (bear in mind that there is a time lag of a week or two between someone getting infected and that being reported in the actual numbers - this coincides with my estimate of when the USA goes into lockdown), the number of reported cases leveling off a couple weeks after that. So we've got about a month of things getting worse before they start getting better.

The bad thing ... Half of the total deaths from this pandemic will be from the USA. If they do the lockdown when I think they should do it (a week from now), as opposed to when I think they will actually do it (a week later), that number will be better. If they try to delay the inevitable or if the US population revolts, that number will be a lot worse.

Exponential-growth models are extremely sensitive, so this prediction WILL be wrong in some way. But ... it's a prediction.

Hunker down and buy supplies. But don't bother with the excess toilet paper.

To make things more complicated, allergy season is fast approaching so those who battle seasonal allergies may have both to contend with. For some, allergy season is already a $hitshow.


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lol people upset with the lack of screening on return through the airport, dude, you have all been exposed what would you have us do send you back?
 
Bumped into Canadian travellers and rental owners here in Costa Rica today. All trying to get home earlier than they had planned. One just arrived at the place today and is leaving tomorrow. $2500 is what some flights back were going for. Some travellers who live in Toronto are travelling to Montreal because that’s all that was available. The AirBnB owners are losing money hand over fist as they get cancellation after cancellation. The fear is that there won’t be a flight to take home soon, there’s not too much fear of contracting a virus here as the heat and environment doesn’t seem the best for viral propagation.
 
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You passed up free beer?? Stronger and smarter than me! My neighbour has family in Italy where their whole city is in lock down. Strange seeing cars in neighbors driveways on the weekend and all plans of ours have been cancelled this weekend and forthcoming. Just cancelled my flight to Florida for months end and San Diego next month has also been cancelled which sucks, but the health of the planet and its people is what is most important. Be well everyone. Anyone here go to Dover on Friday? Pics show it looked pretty quiet.

Shawn sometimes free beer isn't worth it. Maybe if he sweetened the pot with potato chips i might have gone :)
 
was reading about Air BnB
some hosts are really ****** at the cancellations

turns out it my not be a good business plan
to cover your mortgage debt counting on stays from strangers

I've had pretty good luck with them as a traveler
seems not everyone does, this was not me btw
if it was, I would have made sure there were extra pubes on the sheets

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I suspect this is going to be a wild ride fro another month or two -- kind like California wildfires -- you know they are going to happen, you just don't know when a particular area is gonna get hot.

I do wish there was better base level communication to the public. Perhaps a gov't website that has facts explained simply, tracking information, and debunking of rumors and wives tales. Some of the crazy s#:+ you see going on could be calmed a little if there were such a thing.

1) You don't need 200 rolls of toilet paper to get through 2 weeks
2) Soap and water works just as well as hand sanitize if you know how to use it
3) Map the hotspots -- we know where every positive tested person lives and we should expect them to be in their homes during quarantine
4) List the names of those tested positive -- I'd really like to know if the building I work has had infected persons
5) Tell people about the testing protocol -- I hospitals turning away droves of dummies who are not symptomatic yet showing up at hospitals looking to be tested
 
"4) List the names of those tested positive -- I'd really like to know if the building I work has had infected persons"
Forget about it man do you have absolutely no idea what medical information confidentiality is?
 
lol people upset with the lack of screening on return through the airport, dude, you have all been exposed what would you have us do send you back?
airport screening is next to useless, it's a tactic to make the public believe the government is actually doing something
 
"4) List the names of those tested positive -- I'd really like to know if the building I work has had infected persons"
Forget about it man do you have absolutely no idea what medical information confidentiality is?

If Asian-Canadians are being physically assaulted just because the virus came from China, then can you imagine if the names of the infected were made public? Their houses would be burnt down with them inside.
 
airport screening is next to useless, it's a tactic to make the public believe the government is actually doing something
airport screening would be futile.
 
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