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GreyGhost said:
Unless you're in qc. They're running an experiment with there elderly. As with most vaccines, there are no known problems with the older age group, it just hasn't been studied enough yet.
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I thought I read that NACI had the data to support 65+ and that was expected to have them change their recommendation in the short term.

The UK was the test with AZ and 65+ I believe
 
The UK has been vaccinating lots of people over 65 with AstraZeneca and is gaining plenty of real-world evidence. 680 News was saying that the recommendation against using it for people over 65 was being reviewed and may be withdrawn shortly (i.e. within a few days).
 
Which vaccine is Israel using? They seem to be the world's petri dish for universal vaccination at the moment.

I was surprised at how far down Japan was, but they've had some misfortune with vaccines in recent times.
 
Baggsy said:
Which vaccine is Israel using? They seem to be the world's petri dish for universal vaccination at the moment.

I was surprised at how far down Japan was, but they've had some misfortune with vaccines in recent times.
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I believe Israel is using Pfizer.

Japan is way behind because their approval agency evidently suffers from "not invented here syndrome". They wouldn't accept the results of large scale trials done elsewhere in the world ... they had to do their own ... which they did, apparently with a token number of participants, basically just to be able to put a check-mark in that check-box on the check-list "have trials in Japan demonstrated efficacy" or some such thing ... but this resulted in a delay of a few months for that to get done.
 
So I missed a few pages of this thread.

Seems things are headed pear-shaped with the variants.

Although it's interesting that in other areas (mainly, Florida) where you'd expect things to be even worse on the variant front....they're not.

Given the lacsidasical attitude towards masks and such down there, along with restrictions being dialed back further and faster than ours, I'm left wondering exactly why we're being warned of a massive third wave and 6000/day case counts in the coming weeks while Florida, not so much.

The only difference I can see is the weather.

Here's hoping for an early spring.
 
Another difference is that because the USA in general and Florida in particular were so sloppy early on, it's estimated (from your linked article, and I've seen similar numbers elsewhere) that about 30% of Americans have been infected and carry some immunity, and around 20% have been vaccinated. There's some overlap between these but either way 40-some-odd % of Americans now carry some immunity. More importantly almost 60% are not immune.

That's not the case here. If the factor of number of actual infections relative to number of official cases is the same (3) then we've had about 7% of the population infected (seems plausible), and unfortunately thanks to the vaccine situation, about 6% vaccinated. That would suggest somewhere near 12% carrying some immunity allowing for some overlap. Means 88% are not immune.

It's a lot easier to get that famous "Re" factor below 1 when a good portion of the population carries some immunity.
 
Kid had a runny nose and got kicked out of daycare. Kid got a brain poke (again). Whole family is to stay isolated until results. Hopefully tomorrow night.
 
Brian P said:
Another difference is that because the USA in general and Florida in particular were so sloppy early on, it's estimated (from your linked article, and I've seen similar numbers elsewhere) that about 30% of Americans have been infected and carry some immunity, and around 20% have been vaccinated. There's some overlap between these but either way 40-some-odd % of Americans now carry some immunity. More importantly almost 60% are not immune.

That's not the case here. If the factor of number of actual infections relative to number of official cases is the same (3) then we've had about 7% of the population infected (seems plausible), and unfortunately thanks to the vaccine situation, about 6% vaccinated. That would suggest somewhere near 12% carrying some immunity allowing for some overlap. Means 88% are not immune.

It's a lot easier to get that famous "Re" factor below 1 when a good portion of the population carries some immunity.
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US is closer to 30% vaccinated at this point, Canada 7.2%:
COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people

I'd be eligible, but unfortunately, I don't live in the correct city.
 
Baggsy said:
US is closer to 30% vaccinated at this point, Canada 7.2%:
COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people
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Don't think so. That graph says it is doses administered. For most of the vaccines, a person needs two doses. That would mean the actual percentage fully vaccinated would be somewhere between the number shown and half of that number. That doesn't make sense with Israel though as they should be at close to 200.
 
GreyGhost said:
Don't think so. That graph says it is doses administered. For most of the vaccines, a person needs two doses. That would mean the actual percentage fully vaccinated would be somewhere between the number shown and half of that number. That doesn't make sense with Israel though as they should be at close to 200.
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All the "experts" seem to be claiming at this point that one dose should be enough, and we shouldn't worry about how far apart the two doses are. So I'm somewhat mixed on this point.
 
Baggsy said:
All the "experts" seem to be claiming at this point that one dose should be enough, and we shouldn't worry about how far apart the two doses are. So I'm somewhat mixed on this point.
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What I have seen shows a big bump in efficacy from dose two (something like 65% after one, 95% after two). To wipe it out as quickly as possible, I like the california strategy of two for health care and specific at risk groups and everybody else gets one so you can build resistance as fast as possible in your population. If/when you decide to give the majority another shot, you will have less urgency and a better idea of efficacy vs variants.
 
I'm eligible come the start of Phase 2. Problem I expect is that eligibility is so broad across that group that unless they categorize it even further to break it down....a HUGE percentage of the population is eligible all of a sudden. Reservations at that point will basically come down to luck of the draw on clicking "refresh" on the reservation system at the right moment in time.
 
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