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"Mark Sultana says Canada's decision to halt most air travel from the United Kingdom, where a mutated strain of COVID-19 has been discovered, landed "like a bombshell."

The 52-year-old Canadian entrepreneur, who has called London home for the better part of two decades, said the move announced late Sunday has been especially disconcerting for Canadians who had planned to visit family and friends back home over the holidays."

What a *&^*&^*(. This is why all international travel should be whacked. Just a bunch of rich dbags with too much money who believe the rules don't apply to them. He says he planned to quarantine but I doubt that. Very very few people are willing to lock themselves up for two weeks (especially when they arrive a day or two before xmas).


Ukrainian Christmas might work for the quarantine.
 
Ukrainian Christmas might work for the quarantine.
True. It is possible that he was celebrating at a different time.

Anyone that calls an international travel restriction due to covid a bombshell is a drama queen that is out of touch with reality in my books. That type of me first attitude leads me to believe that he was going to to whatever the hell he wanted and is mad that he was told no (in an enforceable manner, not just a polite no that he could ignore).
 
It's not a bad thing to have the lockdown right after Xams, I believe they want give people something to enjoy after such a chit year, and hopefully do it responsibly, then lockdown and wait it out.

If it was a normal day or time of year one would just look at the exponential factor of one day of infection. However the reality is far worse because of the hugging and mistletoe events with all the extra people.

Merry infection and happy intubation in the coming year.
 
True. It is possible that he was celebrating at a different time.

Anyone that calls an international travel restriction due to covid a bombshell is a drama queen that is out of touch with reality in my books. That type of me first attitude leads me to believe that he was going to to whatever the hell he wanted and is mad that he was told no (in an enforceable manner, not just a polite no that he could ignore).

Don't really important people have their own jets?
 
Left hand and a bucket of water works for much of the world. Probably much more effective than our western approach.
You'd be surprised at how many people use re-usable wipes. I used to manufacture them for 20 or 30 small mom and pop shops, about 10,000 of those butt wipers a week. Most went to the Pacific states.
 
We play checkers, they playing chess
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OK, I know it's not logistically trivial, but frig, cross-border shipping needs to be improved during the pandemic. France is blocking thousands of trucks from the UK. There are tens of thousands of truck crossings into canada from the US daily. Why has nobody figured out we need the trailers to cross but not the trucks? Have the driver from one side drive the trailer over the border and dump it in a parking lot. A driver that lives and works on the other side picks up the trailer and continues on their journey. No interaction between people on opposite sides of the border that way.

 
OK, I know it's not logistically trivial, but frig, cross-border shipping needs to be improved during the pandemic. France is blocking thousands of trucks from the UK. There are tens of thousands of truck crossings into canada from the US daily. Why has nobody figured out we need the trailers to cross but not the trucks? Have the driver from one side drive the trailer over the border and dump it in a parking lot. A driver that lives and works on the other side picks up the trailer and continues on their journey. No interaction between people on opposite sides of the border that way.

It makes some sense, but the world doesn't work like that. Because of money (2x operator costs) and legal, something goes wrong, who's to blame.

I still don't understand how people from flights are getting in here, I'm ok with a trucker, who is helping this whole situation, bringing in necessary supplies, but not a diplomat, or some company exc, or some other rich selfish person, they can stay home.
 
You have source for information that the rest of us dont?

Cause I can see all the reported cases on flights, both domestic and international, coming and going from all airports in Canada.

Your source must have access to instant testing and results. And then be willing to share it with you before the required reporting agencies.
You have source for information that the rest of us dont?

Cause I can see all the reported cases on flights, both domestic and international, coming and going from all airports in Canada.

Your source must have access to instant testing and results. And then be willing to share it with you before the required reporting agencies.
You are correct my bad . My friend works at the airport . A 'plane from England landed at Pearson several people showed symptoms .
 
OK, I know it's not logistically trivial, but frig, cross-border shipping needs to be improved during the pandemic. France is blocking thousands of trucks from the UK. There are tens of thousands of truck crossings into canada from the US daily. Why has nobody figured out we need the trailers to cross but not the trucks? Have the driver from one side drive the trailer over the border and dump it in a parking lot. A driver that lives and works on the other side picks up the trailer and continues on their journey. No interaction between people on opposite sides of the border that way.


Small backstory to this right now is that Brexit talks are ongoing and currently stalled at the fishing rights stage. Scientifically it makes sense to isolate the new variant of the virus but it also can’t hurt for Europe to show how it can turn off the taps to the UK whenever is pleases.

One of my friends posted on Facebook that Brexit has cost millions of pounds, taken years and years to sort out and created huge arguments about border closures. Europe did it all with a couple of emails within 24h.
 
OK, I know it's not logistically trivial, but frig, cross-border shipping needs to be improved during the pandemic. France is blocking thousands of trucks from the UK. There are tens of thousands of truck crossings into canada from the US daily. Why has nobody figured out we need the trailers to cross but not the trucks? Have the driver from one side drive the trailer over the border and dump it in a parking lot. A driver that lives and works on the other side picks up the trailer and continues on their journey. No interaction between people on opposite sides of the border that way.

Somewhat sticky. What are the incoterms? Then you need a logistic company who can book in both countries and someone with their head on their shoulders to keep an eye on it.

Easier said then done!
 
Somewhat sticky. What are the incoterms? Then you need a logistic company who can book in both countries and someone with their head on their shoulders to keep an eye on it.

Easier said then done!
Agreed. It is a task that is substantially easier for huge companies and approaching impossible for small companies. Say someone like Swift hands off a trailer from driver A to driver B. Driver B checks for unbroken door tag and continues. It was always under the control of the same company, they just swapped drivers. That seems logistically feasible but you are obviously much more familiar with the intricacies of international shipping than I am.
 
Agreed. It is a task that is substantially easier for huge companies and approaching impossible for small companies. Say someone like Swift hands off a trailer from driver A to driver B. Driver B checks for unbroken door tag and continues. It was always under the control of the same company, they just swapped drivers. That seems logistically feasible but you are obviously much more familiar with the intricacies of international shipping than I am.
oh its doable. it would probably cost a fortune and everyone's bottom line is being hammered enough.

But, if it's either that or shutdown an OEM....PAY THE BILL! :(

We get charged about $120,000.00/hr if we shutdown the big boy plants.
 
oh its doable. it would probably cost a fortune and everyone's bottom line is being hammered enough.

But, if it's either that or shutdown an OEM....PAY THE BILL! :(

We get charged about $120,000.00/hr if we shutdown the big boy plants.
What happens if the big boys tell you to slow down production and actually lower your output because they don't keep up?

$120k/hr actually sounds reasonable for the absolute size of the operation. You're holding up progress and a larger production.
 
What happens if the big boys tell you to slow down production and actually lower your output because they don't keep up?

$120k/hr actually sounds reasonable for the absolute size of the operation. You're holding up progress and a larger production.
If they dropped their orders? They have some liability to take orders within a certain time period, say 2 or 3 days worth of product. Outside of that we'd build up a safety stock to absorb the inevitable increase and move on to run something else or shut the line down and re task people to Quality Checks, Rework or watching paint dry.
 
Agreed. It is a task that is substantially easier for huge companies and approaching impossible for small companies. Say someone like Swift hands off a trailer from driver A to driver B. Driver B checks for unbroken door tag and continues. It was always under the control of the same company, they just swapped drivers. That seems logistically feasible but you are obviously much more familiar with the intricacies of international shipping than I am.

Big carriers do this now for my freight

FedEx freight Canadian driver crosses to Rochester every night and returns to Hamilton Depot

Same process for my shipments crossing from Michigan

There are long haul drivers who cross and keep on going. I have no knowledge what the process is for them.
 
Big carriers do this now for my freight

FedEx freight Canadian driver crosses to Rochester every night and returns to Hamilton Depot

Same process for my shipments crossing from Michigan

There are long haul drivers who cross and keep on going. I have no knowledge what the process is for them.
Yeah easy for the big boys to play this game. Anyone booking independent couriers is in a different situation.
 
I was entertained by their little dances as they tried to swap positions while not getting close to anyone else. Ford is going downhill. No masks. Extra useless people hanging out for the cameras (Lecce). Boo Ford. Back to basics.
Press conference support team was wearing masks today. He must have gotten phone calls about being an idiot.
 
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