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One big pharma announced early trials show their vaccine is 90% effective.
Afaik, many of the early vaccines require storage at -80C so that will be logistically annoying.
My wife is not impressed with what she has seen so far with some of these vaccines. Rapidly developed using never before tried methods and accelerated trials does not give her the warm fuzzies. Before we get injected, she will be reading the clinical documentation to see if the juice is worth the squeeze.
While I’m no antivax in any way shape or form....I might hold off a few rounds to get the vaccine while they get distributed.
the short timeline concerns me as typically these things take years to get to market and ensure safety. A few months is only a concern that something was bypassed in the development.
the short timeline concerns me as typically these things take years to get to market and ensure safety. A few months is only a concern that something was bypassed in the development.
We are very pro-vax, but pro good, safe, effective vax. My wife is damned smart. If she is happy with what she reads, we will get in line. One upside to JT buying everything is there may be a possibility to pick your poison (which would be a logistical nightmare but we'll see what happens).
I am not interested in being a beta tester for panic driven drug approvals that skipped important tests.
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sburns
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Pfizer says COVID-19 vaccine is looking 90 per cent effective
Pfizer Inc. said Monday that its COVID-19 vaccine may be a remarkable 90% effective, based on early and incomplete test results that nevertheless brought a big burst of optimism to a world desperate for the means to finally bring the catastrophic outbreak under control.
www.ctvnews.ca
Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine: Here’s what experts are saying about the new data - National | Globalnews.ca
Although Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine data looks promising, experts say we should remain 'cautious' as the full data has still not been released.
globalnews.ca
Getting close ?
Really depends on where you're travelling. Cuba, for example...has a great handle on things. We're way more risk for *them* than the other way around.
Face it, it's going to be a week of getting shitfaced in a pool and eating a lot of mediocre food....but sun and warmth.
If taking the vaccine means a person can go back to full time work and keep their house it's their choice. Being retired I will take the option of just staying distanced with minimal shopping and outings.
After no restaurants, bars, movies, gatherings I will happily take mediocre food and entertainment while I soak in the warm ocean.
Trials
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Re-read what he wrote! The traveler is positively actively pathogen infected, travel depends on his survival.
Trials
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They are only giving it to people already infected to help combat the infection :| it's not a prophylactic yet, it's experimental treatment.
My parents are retired and will probably get the first vaccine they can. They are high risk (especially my dad, he checks almost all the boxes). Since last xmas, my mom has seen the grandkids for a week and my dad has seen them for an hour. Being in their golden years means potential longterm side effects from a failed approval process would impact their quality of life less than continuing to live in isolation.
I'm not going to judge the choices others make (as long as they are made with some intelligent thought/reasoning). I expect that after a certain period has passed from widespread vaccine availability (maybe a year?), there will be some permanent social restrictions on those that choose not to be vaccinated (such as exclusion from public buildings including schools). I think this would be a good plan for all vaccines and this gives government a path to implement it. I am ok with legitimate medical exemptions but if you have a moral or religious exemption, you don't need to be vaccinated but you can't congregate with other idiots in public buildings. You have chosen to live outside of societal framework and this just formalizes your choice.
Yeah. I've never been a fan of the all inclusive "sit in a pool and get drunk" type thing (I get bored easily), but when compared against "sit in living room and go slowly insane all winter", I'll take it.
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ifiddles
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I'm with @Evoex , personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near a plane until this is under better control...not to mention, my one week of March break would turn into three, and I'm pretty sure my board wouldn't like me taking two weeks off due to having to self isolate because I went somewhere...maybe by next summer we can travel, but until then, no thanks...
The risk is airport and airplane, even if the resort and destination is currently safe. A friend of ours got it in the early days coming back from a resort in Mexico, nothing is 100% for sure but at the time they determined she got it on either a stop-over in Texas or on the second leg of the return flight.
Then there is the possibility of bring it there... At least get a test here prior to hopping on the plane.
Then there is the possibility of bring it there... At least get a test here prior to hopping on the plane.
Be careful on the ice (or was it slippery rocks that got you last year).
Trials
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The Ice is safe once you stud up, it's the exposed rocks that are deadly slippery.
... and open water.
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