Bye bye JT….

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crankcall said:
A decent solution would be a liberal leader that doesnt crap the bed and can hold enough seats to give PP a minority govt. Not a landslide, we need more right , but not crazy PP holding all the cards right .
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Chistie Clark or Mark Carney would be the only possible candidates not tainted with JT's stench but neither are stupid enough to take the job.

But we really need a clean sheet and let PP have a majority like JT had for the first term. The the next election will be the report card despite the complete mess they Liberal Party will be leaving.

Giving NDP or the BQ extra power never goes well
 
GreyGhost said:
Don't forget the environment and indigenous. He has saved us by spending billions with no goal or purpose.
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Does that stalemate continue? Didn't he pledge $$$$$ based on anomalies? Have any bodies been found? Can PP put a time limit on the deal without getting roasted by the cancel crowd?
 
Shaman said:
Mike Bilodeau and Ilija watched the whole thing with me while chatting.

Anyone have any idea how many times he said that the party is wonderful, that he wasn't at fault and we're all just going to have to do better? He claimed he reduced taxes (yeah, sure) and they've done wonderful things for the vulnerable and great things for the economy. It's just so insulting.

Well anyway, shots of tequila before noon to celebrate.

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Don't tell me you're wonderful. Make me realize it through results.

It reminds me of the line "The steam that blows the whistle doesn't run the mill."
 
STARSHIP said:
Chistie Clark or Mark Carney would be the only possible candidates not tainted with JT's stench but neither are stupid enough to take the job.

But we really need a clean sheet and let PP have a majority like JT had for the first term. The the next election will be the report card despite the complete mess they Liberal Party will be leaving.

Giving NDP or the BQ extra power never goes well
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The Liberal Party should be destroyed. Dumping a PM and some trough hogs won't change the focus of the party. We focus on the PM and some MPs but ignore the unnamed string pullers that put them in power. Psychopaths don't change. They back off and regroup, waiting to strike again.
 
Malks said:
I recall a Federal election when the Liberal Party lost so many seats that they actually lost their official party status. I am hoping that history will repeat itself and show JT just how much the Canadian people hate him and what he has done to this country.
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Kim Campbell. I think the Libs figured we wouldn't hit a woman and were they wrong. Two seats. At least she had a sense of humour, saying that her car had four seats. She didn't qualify for a pension.
 
Jampy00 said:
Nope, if people expect to see positive long term changes in a short period of time, they're fooling themselves. It'll just be a new person digging a new hole by filling in the old one...
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True. The whole system has to change. First past the post, the senate etc.

For it to do any good we need reality education. People keep saying dumb things like free medicare, government money etc.

Voter eligibility should require a basic knowledge of economics. Follow the money 101.
 
GreyGhost said:
Imo, not really. From G&M:
"Liberal candidates who are possible leadership contenders: Ms. Freeland, Mr. LeBlanc, former housing minister Sean Fraser, Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly, Innovation Minister François-Philippe Champagne, Transport Minister Anita Anand, former central banker Mark Carney and former B.C. premier Christy Clark.

Polls over the past year have shown the Conservatives with a double-digit advantage over the governing Liberals. An Angus Reid survey, released Friday, suggests that under Mr. Trudeau, the Liberals only have the support of 13 per cent of voters, but those numbers do change if a new leader is in place.

If Ms. Freeland were to take over, 21 per cent of voters would cast a ballot for the Liberals, the highest number among the leadership candidates tested."

All of the ministers are poisoned by association. Christy clark maybe but the rest of canada doesn't have much of an opinion on her. Carney is too smart to jump in now. He may take a swing in four years. Bloc will be official opposition in every case (which is insanity, a federal party with any power should have to have MP's in the majority of the country).
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The Bloc and the Francophone "Frexit" attitude may result in an example of "Be careful about what you wish for. You might just get it."

Bill 96 is to fight the declining number of Francophone in PQ.

You can be educated in English and pass your course but can't graduate unless you can speak French.

One I think has merit is

Quebec's government focuses on controlling the use of the language in private spaces, using coercive measures to force immigrants to learn the language in just six months.Oct 16, 2024

That should apply to learning to speak English as well.

Companies dealing with PQ have to have tech support available in French.

English is largely the language of technology.

I've heard from two people getting snubbed in Montreal for not being able to speak French. One was a Kiwi trying to buy a coffee and the other diesel for his truck. Montreal used to be very language flexible.

Keep it up and tourism suffers. Brain drain suffers.

If PQ split off as they have often wanted they could join France as a country bumpkin colony or join the USA and get raped.

It could be good for Canada long term. Let PQ have the seaway. Make ocean access trough Hudson's Bay, North West passage. Expand Canada north instead of the border belt kissing the USA.
 
Was talking to my mother last night about a replacement for Trudeau. She's a lifelong Liberal voter and detests Poilievre but based on what Trudeau has done to my career (all but over now), she didn't vote last time. So of course she was all happy that Carney might take over and she could vote Liberal again, because "he's smart, he knows what he is doing."

Well, you can imagine her reaction when I said that he is worse than Trudeau in almost every way, with the exception that he isn't likely looking at himself in every mirror he finds, like Justin. "Worse?" she said, incredulous. So I told her this:

  • He's a big-deal investment banker that has run more than one bank
  • He's worked for foreign money interests for years
  • He sees the world as a global market, no sovereignty in his mind
  • He cares so little for Canada that he's lived elsewhere for over a decade
  • The guy made his money by directing investments to avoid taxation and legal limitations
  • This guy is part of every globalist think tank - WEF, WGF, UN, WHO, and others
  • Carney has been photographed being chummy with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeff Epstein
  • Carney has jet-setted more in his life than Trudeau has, which is saying something
  • Elite globalists and oligarchs like Carney are why we are where we are today
  • He's a climate activist that flies private jets, yet wants to take away your quality of life
  • Carney's conflicts of interest need more fingers to count than you've got
  • Carney already tried to get a $10B grant from Trudeau for Brookfield Investments
  • Carney's buddy in Telesat got a $2B loan from Canada based on a losing business plan
  • Carney has already been in the background making bad investments using public money
  • Carney was advising Freeland and Trudeau, and blew the limits out for the 2024 deficit
  • It was Carney's idea, apparently, to give $250 "rebates" for votes using public money
Canada hasn't had a political hack as slimy and elitist as Carney since... well... Trudeau and his cabinet.
 
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Shaman said:
Was talking to my mother last night about a replacement for Trudeau. She's a lifelong Liberal voter and detests Poilievre but based on what Trudeau has done to my career (all but over now), she didn't vote last time. So of course she was all happy that Carney might take over and she could vote Liberal again, because "he's smart, he knows what he is doing."

Well, you can imagine her reaction when I said that he is worse than Trudeau in almost every way, with the exception that he isn't likely looking at himself in every mirror he finds, like Justin. "Worse?" she said, incredulous. So I told her this:

  • He's a big-deal investment banker that has run more than one bank
  • He's worked for foreign money interests for years
  • He sees the world as a global market, no sovereignty in his mind
  • He cares so little for Canada that he's lived elsewhere for over a decade
  • The guy made his money by directing investments to avoid taxation and legal limitations
  • This guy is part of every globalist think tank - WEF, WGF, UN, WHO, and others
  • Carney has been photographed being chummy with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeff Epstein
  • Carney has jet-setted more in his life than Trudeau has, which is saying something
  • Elite globalists and oligarchs like Carney are why we are where we are today
  • He's a climate activist that flies private jets, yet wants to take away your quality of life
  • Carney's conflicts of interest need more fingers to count than you've got
  • Carney already tried to get a $10B grant from Trudeau for Brookfield Investments
  • Carney's buddy in Telesat got a $2B loan from Canada based on a losing business plan
  • Carney has already been in the background making bad investments using public money
  • Carney was advising Freeland and Trudeau, and blew the limits out for the 2024 deficit
  • It was Carney's idea, apparently, to give $250 "rebates" for votes using public money
Canada hasn't had a political hack as slimy and elitist as Carney since... well... Trudeau and his cabinet.
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There's lots here that I'd like to see some links to your info, but since it's the second time I've seen it mentioned, where is the Carney/Epstein photo?
 
nobbie48 said:
Don't tell me you're wonderful. Make me realize it through results.

It reminds me of the line "The steam that blows the whistle doesn't run the mill."
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I liked an old boss' line (which usually followed him canning another toolmaker).

"You can tell me you're Superman, but unless you can fly, you're just another azzhole with an S on your chest.".
 
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