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jc100 said:
Sure. The Europeans don’t appear to have stiffed Canadians recently. In the long term that looks like a much more stable partnership. Funny how this trust thing works.
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Except for their silence presently. Also nothing of support verbally from Britain. Our King has no comment? lol.
 
AllistonGT said:
Except for their silence presently. Also nothing of support verbally from Britain. Our King has no comment? lol.
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The King is a figurehead with almost no power. The whole point is to stay out of Canadian politics and political decisions. I don’t think anything he would say matters in any way.

Everyone’s focuses on tariffs and the pandemonium while Musk ILLEGALLY has full access to govt funding programs.

Just shut down USAIDS because it’s in shambles…he’s robbing the country blind while everyone focuses on tariffs.

www.forbes.com

‘This Needs To Stop Now’—Elon Musk Confirms Radical Doge U.S. Treasury Plan

Elon Musk has confirmed he wants to put the U.S. Treasury on a blockchain, the technology that underpins bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com


I betcha tariffs go away once Musk gets what he needs.
 
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While I sympathize with those in remote areas not having access to internet…tearing up that contract seems like the right thing to do.

$100M gone from Star Link. Let’s see what Elmo sues for.

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For us at home, it will take some effort as what is and is not Canadian can be label misleading at times... but what we are trying to do:

Canadian company and product of Canada from Canadian sources.
Canadian company and made in Canada.
Foreign company (even US) but made in Canada.
Products from Mexico
Products from other places in the world but not US.
Made in USA--only if that is the only option AND we really need it.

It may mean some menu changes at home but so far not many. We were pleasantly surprised.

That last category will likely mostly be select code required construction materials that have no other options. Laundry detergent seems to be another hickup for us but we are working on that (allergies are the issue, so a brand switch can be tricky).

Not banning US brands if the product is made here as they still employ Canadians.

This now will continue until the convicted felon and rapist is out of office, regardless of tariffs.
 
Evoex said:
He's just an engineer!!! 😬 More of an Evo or @Mad Mike question

Long and Short is bad news. We send parts across the border sometimes multiple times for plating, processing or assembly, that price all goes up. Then the piece price paid for components that come our way here will be hit. Then the finished goods sold to plants cross border will be hit.

I'm going to reach out to an old colleague and see what he's saying. But I expect some programs will be cancelled outright or the business moved out of Ontario and they retool somewhere cheaper.

Assuming there's no quick reversal.
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I'm out of the loop now (thankfully) but I've seen no clarity on what's supposed to happen when parts cross the border multiple times in the course of building (for example) a car. If there's no clarity (you have to pay every time), practically every auto assembly plant in North America, all three countries, shuts down when they run out of parts until the governmentS fix this. Probably roughly end of this week give or take. Some of the Mexican plants that build products for central and south America should be OK.

The 🍊 blob has been threatening the EU also, so the USA will become a pariah.

Long term won't matter if they can't get through the next few months.
 
Brian P said:
I'm out of the loop now (thankfully) but I've seen no clarity on what's supposed to happen when parts cross the border multiple times in the course of building (for example) a car. If there's no clarity (you have to pay every time), practically every auto assembly plant in North America, all three countries, shuts down when they run out of parts until the governmentS fix this. Probably roughly end of this week give or take. Some of the Mexican plants that build products for central and south America should be OK.

The 🍊 blob has been threatening the EU also, so the USA will become a pariah.

Long term won't matter if they can't get through the next few months.
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The good thing is the US insanity is showing the world how unstable it is. I'm reading multiple reports of many countries / economic zones basically saying 'screw this, let's focus on something stable'.

I see a future of the US ioslating itself (which is what it wants) because hissy fits and temper tantrums may work within the confines of Congress / White House...but it doesn't always work on the world stage.

Let's see what happens today as Justin - Trump - Sheinbaum are supposed to talk. I can only imagine this call.

'Hey guys, I was kidding, let's walk off the edge here'

OR

'I told you, if you retaliate we're going higher...50% higher tariffs and good luck to you!'

OR

'I'm invading next week if you don't change your mind'
 
mimico_polak said:
Let’s see what Elmo sues for
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Hurt feelings probably. That seems to be the basis of lots of his lawsuits. He’s literally suing former twitter advertisers right now because they decided not to advertise anymore - so yeah, they hurt his feelings and now he’s lashing out.

When you’ve got billions, launching a lawsuit costs him the equivalent of one of us finding 5¢ in the couch cushions, and he’s not afraid to use that as his bully advantage.

He’ll sue us over something I’m sure because that’s what that manchild does.
 
MacDoc said:
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To sell or not to sell. That is the question. Who is impacted?

A company can't write off inventory as an expense unless it is scrapped.

For example, a company seeing a million dollars in year-end profits can't avoid paying the taxes by purchasing a million dollars of product. The government sees the inventory as money sitting on the shelf and taxable. Taking that hit in a stressed market could be hard. The bottles of money may also be on the bank tab and interest must be paid, a triple whammy.

Government operations just add those to the future tax debt. Private companies don't have that option. Survival grants and loans, Covid style, eventually come out of the taxpayer's pocket.

It might be worth selling the stuff off. Issue a replacement order stipulating "Do not Ship until tariffs are resolved". Maybe demand a 25% discount. The tariff crap comes out of their profits.

Since Trump has been more forgiving with only a 10% hit on oil, why don't we take up the slack and add a 15% export duty. We make up a few bucks on the deal.

Trump is blaming Canada for the drug trade. The drug trade is just a little part of capitalism. There are manufacturers, transportation and end users. The key to eliminating the drug fiasco is to eliminate the end user. BTW who created Oxycontin?

Hitting the drug manufacture and transportation parts just makes those sectors adjust. Prices may rise a bit but the junkies will adjust by stealing more or stealing higher quality goods. I'm not seeing any activity in the VHS market because the market is dead.

Capitalism flourishes when there is demand. Eliminate the demand. Sadly, that requires thought, a rare commodity when the soil is red.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Hurt feelings probably. That seems to be the basis of lots of his lawsuits. He’s literally suing former twitter advertisers right now because they decided not to advertise anymore - so yeah, they hurt his feelings and now he’s lashing out.

When you’ve got billions, launching a lawsuit costs him the equivalent of one of us finding 5¢ in the couch cushions, and he’s not afraid to use that as his bully advantage.

He’ll sue us over something I’m sure because that’s what that manchild does.
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While I agree…ripping up 100M contracts will have cancellation clauses and penalties attached to that.

If Doug can just rip up a contract (moral grounds or others) it can set a precedent where others can be hesitant to invest simply because of the same thing Trump is doing.

I agree with Doug, but ripping up contracts shouldn’t be done Willy nilly as it makes us a dangerous partner…same as Trump.
 
Again, I think this whole mess just opens up new trade relationships within our own country and with anyone outside the USA.

Replace that California wine with BC wine. We can get more produce from Mexico if it’s not going to USA to avoid the tariffs.

We are often encouraged to diversify our personal investments and it should be the same for country’s trade relationships.
 
mimico_polak said:
but ripping up contracts shouldn’t be done Willy nilly as it makes us a dangerous partner…same as Trump.
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Every good contract has a force majeure clause.

“Your government has gone batshit crazy and is trying to destroy our country” is going to do just fine in court on this one.
 
Lets face it. 25% for your neighbour with whom you share the worlds longest undefended border and 10% for the world's largest producer of fentenyl. That right there tells you who's not playing with a full deck.
 
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