Buy Canadian (not American)-Buy this not that!

Cynical me cant help but think that this whole tariff deal is as scripted as a WWE wrestling match.
Both the Canadian and US governments are running on a fiscal plan that can not be sustained.
The only solution that could keep them going would be substantial tax hikes, something that may cause dissidence and revolt that would require more government spending to control.
The easiest solution to make the masses accept and even embrace additional taxation is to fire up their patriotism with a external villain.
PT Barnum had a point.

IMO the solution would to find new markets and trading partners forthwith and not impose new taxation on our already overtaxed citizens.
It's a worst case situation but entirely possible.

The wealth of the Americas has made us sloppy and lazy. It's variation of the tortoise and the hare where the assumption by the hare that success was in the bag.

We've had generations of this and the work ethic is far from what it should be. Thank you nanny staters.
 
Our grocery shopping just took a little longer than usual. A quick double check of labels. Yesterday the trip to the LCBO was painful for my wife who really likes Californian wines but there’s some amazing alternatives. 1st world problems.

We also did shopping for pet food and the local pet store had grouped the food by “made in canada” vs others.

I actually think for once in recent history that this is a cause every Canadian is prepared to get behind.
Will there be hoarding of American things we just can't live without. Bourbon?
 
Which plan? Rattle some cages and get a response?

Or keep going with tariff war?
He's a businessman, from new york of all places. If he's got leverage he's going to use it..and in this case he has the most successful economy in the history of our species to do so.

Like i said elsewhere, big fish eat the little fish. This is the way.

We can blame Trump till we're blue in the face. But we also did this to ourselves. Putting too many eggs in one basket leaves you vulnerable, hopefully all that will really last from this situation is that Trump taught us a good lesson.
 
I have to remind myself that he was a multi-billionaire before he entered politics.
I mean, let's also not kid ourselves. If he has to squeeze a few hundred? thousand American families for his agenda..i don't see him hesitating.
 

Likely goes directly into a bitbucket somewhere after a boilerplate reply is generated. Same as his cellphone number that he gives out to everyone...you know that's not his actual cellphone number, just one that he throws in his glovebox and clears the voicemail off routinely, and maybe occasionally answers just for good measure so he can keep up the image of being a commoner.

Anyone who actually matters has his real cellphone number which isn't actually public.

Putting too many eggs in one basket leaves you vulnerable, hopefully all that will really last from this situation is that Trump taught us a good lesson.

This will change everything, I'm sure. Interprovincial barriers will fall. Pipelines will get built faster than they ever have before. Trade negotiations and new partners will be negotiated and onboarded at record paces. America has stepped on it's own dick here in the long term - I'm sure we'll placate them somehow and hopefully get out from under this in the short term, but the damage will be done.

Canada will play quiet for the next 4 years and maybe even placate the beast, but I have no doubt whatsoever a lot will be going on behind the scenes to reduce our reliance on what has now been shown to be an unreliable and openly hostile trading partner that is no longer our friend.

This is like living next to a neighbour (in a smaller house, but still a good neighbour) that has been your friend and ally through thick and thin for decades, you have an overall good relationship, you exchange eggs and sugar and whatever else back and forth when one or the other needs it like good neighbours do, and then one day you walk over to his front door and punch him in the face just because your feelings got hurt and you decide you want his house and everything in it because you deserve it. All the pretences you've used for making that decision are not based in any sort of reality, but nobody cares because you're yelling it loud enough that everyone else on the street believes it.

He can continue to live in his house maybe if you feel generous, but under your rules.

And if he dares fight back, you'll punch him even harder.

These is bully tactics.

I don't know about you, but I fought back against bullies in school who tried to take my lunch money, because if you don't fight back, they'll be back tomorrow to not only take your lunch money again, but also your walkman this time around.

I have to remind myself that he was a multi-billionaire before he entered politics.

He's a textbook example of failing upward.
 
We’d better. This is existential to our country.

Absolutely. People will sleepwalk into this and then wake up one day wondering why any friends they had in Oshawa are feeling more than a bit ****** off.

Trump thinks of himself as a disruptor (this is current code for “is a ******* idiot and is too stupid to realize it”). What we have to do is disrupt back. Cancel F35 orders, make new trade partners for things the US cannot get anywhere else then reply with “too bad, so sad, we sold it all to friends”.

As for his plans and this being business 101. You have to remember this supposedly super unfair situation has occurred at the same time as the masterful implementation of his trade agreement from his first term that he crowed about as he was such a brilliant businessman. The guy is a schizophrenic compulsive liar. That’s not good business, that’s just being an untrustworthy ****.
 
Absolutely. People will sleepwalk into this and then wake up one day wondering why any friends they had in Oshawa are feeling more than a bit ****** off.

Trump thinks of himself as a disruptor (this is current code for “is a ******* idiot and is too stupid to realize it”). What we have to do is disrupt back. Cancel F35 orders, make new trade partners for things the US cannot get anywhere else then reply with “too bad, so sad, we sold it all to friends”.

As for his plans and this being business 101. You have to remember this supposedly super unfair situation has occurred at the same time as the masterful implementation of his trade agreement from his first term that he crowed about as he was such a brilliant businessman. The guy is a schizophrenic compulsive liar. That’s not good business, that’s just being an untrustworthy ****.
Again. ooof.

I think we're over $350 million USD into this program already, never mind what was lost due to the first cancellation.
 
One of Trumps biggest irritants is that we're not doing the whole 2% of GDP thing for our military / defence / etc, but then he does stuff like this that will risk our economy and financial wellbeing as a country to such a serious extent that it will make it economically impossible for us to reach these goals for possibly a generation. Financing the economy and helping our population through Covid cost us a lot of money. Having to do it all over again through a trade war when hundreds of thousands of people could lose their jobs (There's a high risk I'll be one of them) certainly ensures that we'll not have money to splash around on our military anymore.
 
Again. ooof.

I think we're over $350 million USD into this program already, never mind what was lost due to the first cancellation.

Buy the eurofighter and just write the F35 off as a bad deal. If the Americans moan about contracts just point to the free trade agreement Trump just ripped up. If it’s good for the goose etc….

Just tell them there’s no tariffs on European based military goods and materials. Sorry, it’s just business.
 
Buy the eurofighter and just write the F35 off as a bad deal. If the Americans moan about contracts just point to the free trade agreement Trump just ripped up. If it’s good for the goose etc….

Just tell them there’s no tariffs on European based military goods and materials. Sorry, it’s just business.
Isn't that what we said in 2015? Then in 2022 we're buying 88? No wait, now we consider it a bad deal again.

lawd.
 
One of Trumps biggest irritants is that we're not doing the whole 2% of GDP thing for our military / defence / etc, but then he does stuff like this that will risk our economy and financial wellbeing as a country to such a serious extent that it will make it economically impossible for us to reach these goals for possibly a generation. Financing the economy and helping our population through Covid cost us a lot of money. Having to do it all over again through a trade war when hundreds of thousands of people could lose their jobs (There's a high risk I'll be one of them) certainly ensures that we'll not have money to splash around on our military anymore.
s'ok, we're not going to get there till 2030 or later anyways,
 
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