blackberry 10

just_luc said:
Typical ifan responses.. there's half a dozen people that own the new blackberry in this thread ALONE and only one person is experiencing an issue.. what does that have to do with how many years BB took to develop the platform, or how does it translate to BB being nothing but a headache? I'm not saying it's ok by any means that he's having that trouble.. but one bad device does not a faulty product line make.. the OP will be issued a replacement, and will go on his merry way.




Since you have nothing 3rd party installed that's a good plan.. you are WELL within the warranty period and even within the return period so Telus should have no problem swapping it out for a new one. I know Rogers wouldn't have a problem swapping it.
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Typical ******** response, don't actually read what I'm saying, just run to defend bb's honour. I've owned 3 bb phones, every single one crapped out after a year. Switched to iphone and haven't had a problem in a year since I've owned it.

I'm just pointing out how a phone not working at all is a much bigger deal than apparent battery life issues. You can't justifiably compare the two. Like I said, just accepting that these things will happen cause the phone is new doesn't make sense to me. You are still paying premium dollar for what apparently is a gaurenteed inferior product for at least a few months.

None of this new **** matters to me though. I don't bother buying a new phone until my old one craps out. If it works, don't fix it is how I look at it. I didn't even bother updating my phone because I heard they got rid of google maps and I knew the apple maps would be garbage at first.
 
I'd really like to see a "home" button included or couple simple buttons. The push to be total touch screen control and be cool isn't handier and if your a dedicated business user, email and phone it could be streamlined.
I'm no longer there target market and I get that, but I cant be alone in my thoughts.
 
awyala said:
Hold the phone! Is it true that the new Z10 and BB10 do not sync with Outlook?!?! There is some sort of work around to sync the calendar but it no longer syncs like it used to?

Can anyone shed light on this? Surely this can't be true.
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How to set up Outlook to wirelessly synchronize your contacts and calendar with a BlackBerry Z10 smartphone.........


http://blogs.blackberry.com/2013/02/set-up-outlook-sync-with-blackberry-z10/
 
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CruisnGrrl said:
Apple just released an update a week or two ago to deal with battery issues and a second update to deal with issues on the iphone 4s... how many years will BB take to update...
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yes, years and years..... they might even go bankrupt again before their next update becomes available.

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crankcall said:
I'd really like to see a "home" button included or couple simple buttons. The push to be total touch screen control and be cool isn't handier and if your a dedicated business user, email and phone it could be streamlined.
I'm no longer there target market and I get that, but I cant be alone in my thoughts.
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Its actually quite the slick OS, you just have to fully learn all the features that make it quicker and simpler without the need for a home button.

Trick 1 to make things more efficient :

[video=youtube;_wJyrgoNt0c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wJyrgoNt0c&feature=player_embedded[/video]




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Trick 2, if you need to restart the hub :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgLE7sWmU4A
 
Mine isn't getting shipped until this week (wasn't home to take delivery) but I think I may need lessons Sunny! You seem to know this phone well!
 
crankcall said:
I'd really like to see a "home" button included or couple simple buttons. The push to be total touch screen control and be cool isn't handier and if your a dedicated business user, email and phone it could be streamlined.
I'm no longer there target market and I get that, but I cant be alone in my thoughts.
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I agree. I prefer to have at least one hardware button to return me to home base/quit the app for three reasons:

1. Pressing a button is generally quicker than a gesture and requires less dexterity

2. A button provides a possible escape when the phone freezes, especially if it's a touch layer lockup (happens more often than you'd think)

3. Gestures are easier to execute accidentally (coming from my experience with the playbook which has a lot of swipe-from-edge gestures)

That said, it ain't a deal breaker. I got a chance to play with the phone for a minute today and it felt snappy. A lot lighter than it looks too.
 
AF4iK said:
2. A button provides a possible escape when the phone freezes, especially if it's a touch layer lockup
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There is still the hardware button on the top which can be used to reboot it in the unlikely event of a lockup.
 
just_luc said:
There is still the hardware button on the top which can be used to reboot it in the unlikely event of a lockup.
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This is true but on my iphone for example, apps will sometimes freeze such that touch inputs no longer register. The home button usually gets me back to the springboard without having to resort to a reboot.

Also, IMO, I'd replace the word "unlikely" with "occasional" as you're almost guaranteed to have a lockup at some point, just not too often.
 
just_luc said:
There is still the hardware button on the top which can be used to reboot it in the unlikely event of a lockup.
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the lockup is not an unlikely event and a full reboot on this thing is actually go to security setting and restore to factory settings, or a full restore can be done from the BB link on your PC, then you get to reload all your contacts and settings, praying everybody backs this stuff up now.

I finally got to speak with a BB rep today, they have NO issues with software at all, but the updates are being worked on round the clock......



here's my question, commercial Telus stores have no inventory and are saying 2 wks, both future shop and bestbuy have LOTS of inventory of Bell and telus configured phones. They cannot sell a phone outright only upgrade your program, so if you are standing with $600 in your hand you can buy a Galaxy or iphone, but not a Z10 for another 30 days even though the inventory is sitting in the store.

Did the braintrust at BB actually think the hyperbole would create a shortage of supply in this market? Maybe thats part of BB over all performance challenges, they believe thier own spin doctors.
 
AF4iK said:
This is true but on my iphone for example, apps will sometimes freeze such that touch inputs no longer register. The home button usually gets me back to the springboard without having to resort to a reboot.

Also, IMO, I'd replace the word "unlikely" with "occasional" as you're almost guaranteed to have a lockup at some point, just not too often.
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No arguments here.. all electronics freeze on occasion, I have no doubt my z10 will do the same.. I just choose my words carefully, as with ifans around "occasionally' is misconstrude as all the time.. sufficient to say, it can, and will happen.. but no more often then it does with an iphone or other.
 
crankcall said:
here's my question, commercial Telus stores have no inventory and are saying 2 wks, both future shop and bestbuy have LOTS of inventory of Bell and telus configured phones. They cannot sell a phone outright only upgrade your program, so if you are standing with $600 in your hand you can buy a Galaxy or iphone, but not a Z10 for another 30 days even though the inventory is sitting in the store.

Did the braintrust at BB actually think the hyperbole would create a shortage of supply in this market? Maybe thats part of BB over all performance challenges, they believe thier own spin doctors.
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I don't think Blackberry has a hand in what you are experiencing at all.. simply put Best Buy ordered more inventory then Telus allocated for their commercial Chanel (or Telus sold through what they had faster) either way, Best Buy has paid for their inventory.. Telus is out.. and Best Buy isn't about to give it back.. Best Buy could easily sell it outright, but they make peanuts on that.. all the money comes from the activation, and they know since they have the inventory, they hold the cards.. it's not a Blackberry issue.. they did the same with iphone shortages and everything else..
 
RandomHero said:
TYou are still paying premium dollar for what apparently is a gaurenteed inferior product for at least a few months.
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On the other hand, no one makes you pay the premium. That's YOUR choice. I generally avoid new launch products because I want to wait for the kinks to be sorted out. I don't find it fun being a beta tester.

I'm glad that the keyboard version comes out later - some of the OS patches will have made its way to that one. Then I can give bb one last chance before I jump ship.
 
crankcall said:
here's my question, commercial Telus stores have no inventory and are saying 2 wks, both future shop and bestbuy have LOTS of inventory of Bell and telus configured phones. They cannot sell a phone outright only upgrade your program, so if you are standing with $600 in your hand you can buy a Galaxy or iphone, but not a Z10 for another 30 days even though the inventory is sitting in the store.

Did the braintrust at BB actually think the hyperbole would create a shortage of supply in this market? Maybe thats part of BB over all performance challenges, they believe thier own spin doctors.
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My guess is it's a requirement from Bell and Telus that FS and BB only sell plans, not standalone phones. Perhaps with the idea that it will 'force' people to choose their service. Go to Loblaws, Walmart, whoever other non-provider you want... I bet they will only sell you phones with a plan.
 
crankcall said:
so if you are standing with $600 in your hand you can buy a Galaxy or iphone, but not a Z10 for another 30 days even though the inventory is sitting in the store.

Did the braintrust at BB actually think the hyperbole would create a shortage of supply in this market? Maybe thats part of BB over all performance challenges, they believe thier own spin doctors.
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No, its because of guys like this below, that want to buy them all out and resell them to US and middle east buyers for a hefty profit. Scan the kijiji and ebay ads at your leisure. Tonnes of ads and people are flipping this phone easily for $1000+

The retailers have been told to only sell them "with contracts" as a result.


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BB is a solid #3 in the US market. TWICE the share of Windows phone. And they havent even launched BB10 there yet.

BB10 has currently launched in the UK, Canada and now UAE with sellouts of product. Likely a successful US launch will follow.

Windows Phone is slipping crazy and they've been on the market for a while now.

"Blackberry remains in third place overall with 6.4%.The worst news, quite possibly, was reserved for Microsoft, which witnessed its share fall from 3.6% to 2.9%.Although it comes as no surprise to anyone that Android, iOS, and BlackBerry continue to lead Microsoft by such a wide margin in mobile, it is surprising to see the Windows phone platform take such a dip."​
http://www.mobilemarketingwatch.com/windows-phone-market-share-falls-in-u-s-29054/
 
just_luc said:
I just choose my words carefully, as with ifans around "occasionally' is misconstrude as all the time..
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lol I know what you mean. Buddy of mine at work here is a religious fanboy. I can't say anything negative about apple
 
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