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Bike won't start after winter storage (even with new battery)

Trials said:
That's actually not too bad but you could also check things like the ground from the battery to the motor for resistance using the meter.
and basic test for fuel pressure is super easy. Did you test for spark using a plug grounded against something good?
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what should the voltage be at from the motor to the ground on the battery?
 
vlocka said:
apparently theres a trick to put a screw driver on starter relay and try starting it that way?
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Advice. Call sombody -- you need help.

|I don't mean to belittle you efforts, it's great to troubleshoot and fix your own stuff, but based on your questions I'm guessing you haven't done much of this in the past. To fix a bike you first want to diagnose the problem -- you will spend a lot of time and money fixing things until the problem goes away.

An SV is fairly simple bike, there are lots of them and any decent mechanic should be able to diagnose your problem fairly quickly (as could a lot of the readers here if the bike were in their garage.

You're not going to get far using a public forum until you get very specific with your issue.

Perhaps if you mention where you live and promise to stand 10' back, someone on this forum may be generous enough to take a peek at your bike.
 
Mad Mike said:
Advice. Call sombody -- you need help.

|I don't mean to belittle you efforts, it's great to troubleshoot and fix your own stuff, but based on your questions I'm guessing you haven't done much of this in the past. To fix a bike you first want to diagnose the problem -- you will spend a lot of time and money fixing things until the problem goes away.

An SV is fairly simple bike, there are lots of them and any decent mechanic should be able to diagnose your problem fairly quickly (as could a lot of the readers here if the bike were in their garage.

You're not going to get far using a public forum until you get very specific with your issue.

Perhaps if you mention where you live and promise to stand 10' back, someone on this forum may be generous enough to take a peek at your bike.
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yes this is the first time im doing more then oil change and spark plugs to a bike.

i open to any help or suggestions. i live in halton hills area.
 
Mad Mike said:
Perhaps if you mention where you live and promise to stand 10' back, someone on this forum may be generous enough to take a peek at your bike.
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Make sure you sanitize the case of beer before placing it next to the bike ? :p
 
vlocka said:
Can I top up through the res or doin gotta flush everything out?
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Fill coolant through radiator cap or radiator filler neck whichever the bike has, massage coolant hoses to get any air out. Fill reservoir to low level. Run bike for a bit let the fans cycle on and off a few times, let the thermostat kick in. Let bike cool off fill radiator bleed at coolant drain fill reservoir and you’re probably air free but I would check rad level after a few rides or if temps running high
 
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Mad Mike said:
Advice. Call sombody -- you need help.

|I don't mean to belittle you efforts, it's great to troubleshoot and fix your own stuff, but based on your questions I'm guessing you haven't done much of this in the past. To fix a bike you first want to diagnose the problem -- you will spend a lot of time and money fixing things until the problem goes away.

An SV is fairly simple bike, there are lots of them and any decent mechanic should be able to diagnose your problem fairly quickly (as could a lot of the readers here if the bike were in their garage.

You're not going to get far using a public forum until you get very specific with your issue.

Perhaps if you mention where you live and promise to stand 10' back, someone on this forum may be generous enough to take a peek at your bike.
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Mad Mike said:
Advice. Call sombody -- you need help.

|I don't mean to belittle you efforts, it's great to troubleshoot and fix your own stuff, but based on your questions I'm guessing you haven't done much of this in the past. To fix a bike you first want to diagnose the problem -- you will spend a lot of time and money fixing things until the problem goes away.

An SV is fairly simple bike, there are lots of them and any decent mechanic should be able to diagnose your problem fairly quickly (as could a lot of the readers here if the bike were in their garage.

You're not going to get far using a public forum until you get very specific with your issue.

Perhaps if you mention where you live and promise to stand 10' back, someone on this forum may be generous enough to take a peek at your bike.
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ouch mad mike I feel for this poor bike as much as you but everyone learns somewhere. If I listed off the costs I’ve incurred for all my mistakes I could almost afford a 10 year old harley ?
 
vlocka said:
what should the voltage be at from the motor to the ground on the battery?
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Zero resistance on the ohms scale. You can use your multi-meter to measure resistance in wires which helps you locate bad connections.
 
Unless the bike has a coolant level sensor (most don't) that's not the reason it won't start.

How much do you want for it and where are you located?
 
Crazy stuff. I may have missed if anyone talked about it, but the original symptoms (after the jump start) may offer a clue? The bike was ridden for 5 minutes, then the idle started moving, then it died, if I understand correctly?

I don't have any experience with liquid-cooled bikes, but could it have overheated on that ride with no coolant? Maybe some internal damage?

Or maybe something got sucked through fuel system?

Someone here needs to buy this bike and perform an autopsy... I gotta know what happened!
 
that's what i'm thinking it over heated and seized/

i'm not far from where he lives, if this ******** virus wasn't going on i would go and look
 
vlocka said:
Quick update- putting new spark plugs and battery in i noticed there no coolant. Could this be why the bike doesn't fire up?
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Was that initial 5 minute ride done with no coolant in the cooling system? I'm not talking about the overflow bottle - I'm talking about what's in the radiator underneath the radiator cap.

Does the engine sound like it is spinning over freely - no compression?

If there was NO coolant in the cooling system then you lunched the engine by running it under load without coolant, and it's now not starting because it has no compression.

Why did it have no coolant in the cooling system?
 
Compression check might be the next logical path of diagnostics, however my experience tells me that it takes more than a minute or two of idling a liquid cooled engine sans coolant to cause damage.

And yes, where the coolant went is another good question. If it leaked into the cylinders the engine would probably be Hydro locked so bad it wouldn’t even roll over.

that being said just because the overflow bottle isn’t showing any coolant doesn’t necessarily mean the entire system is empty, it may just be low from neglect if it has been along time since it was checked.
 
Talked to him over the phone. He cranked it over. Seemed very fast crank over but new fully charged battery so maybe normal. Asked him to pull plugs check if he smells gas. Said strong gas smell. Asked him to look at oil. Says it’s at proper level in glass. Question to all what would a faulty tip over switch do. Still let it crank ?

Bike is a S model mad into a super bike style. May have been down at some point in its life.
 
This is why the earlier diagnostic info I posted earlier is so essential. Does it have spark? Does it have air? Does it have fuel?

Based on everything I’ve read so far with regards to follow ups since then, the only one that appears to now vaguely have an answer as of your response is ....fuel.

Has the air filter been pulled to check that there isn’t an massive rats nest in there clogging the intake? Has a spark plug wire been pulled to check that there’s actually spark?

Until then everybody is grasping at straws.
 
If the spark plug is out, the next step is to plug it into the coil/cap and lean the shell of the spark plug (metal) against a metal part of the engine in a position where the spark plug gap can be viewed, and crank it over to see if the spark plug is sparking. If the plug is soaked with fuel, it may be fouled (and thus not sparking).
 
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