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you are all ********** and im a terrorist.

now time to get fired! :D

If it hurt the woman so much to see what he wrote, then look elsewhere and move on with your life, why cant you just LET GO. Like what is her problem? Live and let live. "You said a bad word so im going to tell the teacher"
Well its REAL LIFE, and losing a job over an internet comment is blown out of proportion IMO.
Maybe she should filter through all of the internetz and find all the slander in the world and get everybody fired for an opinion that might or might not be against their employer's values.
It might appease that emptiness in her heart and give her a purpose in life.

Report to facebook, okay, its alright.

Reporting to an employer? Wrong, just wrong.
 
LePhillou said:
you are all ********** and im a terrorist.

now time to get fired! :D

If it hurt the woman so much to see what he wrote, then look elsewhere and move on with your life, why cant you just LET GO. Like what is her problem? Live and let live. "You said a bad word so im going to tell the teacher"
Well its REAL LIFE, and losing a job over an internet comment is blown out of proportion IMO.
Maybe she should filter through all of the internetz and find all the slander in the world and get everybody fired for an opinion that might or might not be against their employer's values.
It might appease that emptiness in her heart and give her a purpose in life.

Report to facebook, okay, its alright.

Reporting to an employer? Wrong, just wrong.
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You dont get it. His FB clearly showed his employment info, nobody had to search anywhere to find out who he was or where he worked. He might as well have sent it on company letterhead.
 
People need to be held accountable for what they say whether it's off or on the internet. Comments one makes can have an impact on someone else and thus accountability needs to there. It doesn't matter if it's under the guise of anonymity or as a joke. If you want to say it be responsible for it.
 
OpenGambit said:
The Charter doesn't apply to interactions between private citizens unless they are somehow agents of the state ( generally speaking )

Further, you can dismiss without cause provided proper severance is paid.

Whatever your opinion, based on the facts as reported thus far, the law has little to say on this matter, if anything.
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Wait a minute. It's not very clear what happened here. Fired means fired, no severance, and you can only do it with just cause. Dismissal, no cause required as long as severance is paid. Right? So did the guy get fired or dismissed?
 
Are people this stupid? Whatever you post online especially with your name and photos attached it can and will come back to you in a positive or negative way.

I am amazed at how little people value their privacy or personal information.
 
This guy went out of his way to inflict pain on a family that lost a child, and as a result lost his job for it.

I don't support getting fired for speaking your mind but at the same time i dont support someone going out of their way to be an ***.
Dude deserved it in my opinion, maybe next time he'll think a little.
 
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Wait a minute. It's not very clear what happened here. Fired means fired, no severance, and you can only do it with just cause. Dismissal, no cause required as long as severance is paid. Right? So did the guy get fired or dismissed?
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Well what I am saying is that the only thing that the law has to say about this is really the payment of severance. That really isn't the point of the discussion.
 
Only read the first page of this thread. If the guy really was fired for that comment I think he should sue. What the hell does Grafton's statement have to do with anything that transpired??

"Our company ethics are based on tolerance, respect and fair and honourable treatment of all individuals, internally, with our customers and the population as a whole," he said.
"We have zero tolerance for the mistreatment of others no matter what form it takes."


Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news...ead+teenager/7399527/story.html#ixzz29bgbCDvK
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wormburner said:
The issue is bigger than one dead white girl. It has to do with bullying, sexual exploitation of a teenager, and our collective behaviour on the internet. I was happy to hear that Anonymous tracked down the 30 year old ****** who started all this. And every jackazz who thinks they can say whatever they please online is getting a wake up call.

Guess what, karma is a b!tch.
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Respectfully disagree. This has nothing to do with suicide, bullying or sexual exploitation. Those were all covered by the media when the news was released. This article is about emotional reactions overriding higher reasoning.
 
AF4iK said:
Respectfully disagree. This has nothing to do with suicide, bullying or sexual exploitation. Those were all covered by the media when the news was released. This article is about emotional reactions overriding higher reasoning.
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Actually, it seems to be more about bottom line. His employer doesn't want to be in any way, shape or form associated with his comments. It's quite possible that those who made the decision don't give a toss about Amanda Todd or his comments - but they know perfectly well the media attention flying around this story.

Whether people feel it's overkill or not, this is the new reality with social media. If he does decide to sue, I'm curious as to how it's going to pan out.
 
Lots of keyboard hero's in this thread.Would any of you talk that way in an open discussion amongst friends in a public setting such as a workplace? Didn't think so.No compassion...wth?
 
Wingboy said:
Lots of keyboard hero's in this thread.Would any of you talk that way in an open discussion amongst friends in a public setting such as a workplace? Didn't think so.No compassion...wth?
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I would, and have, and will continue to do so.
I think its very sad what happened to the little girl, but thats not what this thread is about

its about having your workplace punishing you, for your views outside of the workplace.
what if your pro-choice, and your employer finds out, and fires you becasue they are devout christians that dont believe in abortion

what if, on your FB, you mention that you are a jehova's witness, and the owner of your company is a Jew, and makes you life at work a living hell

it couldbe anything that someone might disagree with. and thats what i think is wrong.
 
Got to love witch hunts. God some people are pathetic. Well I guess the same people who are fine with this idiot getting fired are also fine with regular drug test and **** like that. I mean apparently it's everyone's business what you do these days and god forbid you aren't a model citizen.

I just find it funny how everyone is pretending to be concious of bullying now, yet this guy is basically being bullied for posting a stupid comment. If the person who ratted him out kept their mouth shut then I doubt his comments would have reached anyone who would've been hurt by them.
 
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OpenGambit said:
Well what I am saying is that the only thing that the law has to say about this is really the payment of severance. That really isn't the point of the discussion.
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So there's a big difference($$$) between fired and dismissed. I doubt the company had grounds to outright fire him. He must have walked away with some severance or he has grounds to sue.
 
daught said:
So there's a big difference($$$) between fired and dismissed. I doubt the company had grounds to outright fire him. He must have walked away with some severance or he has grounds to sue.
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my response was directly to the people who suggested that it was a free speech / Charter issue. Kindly read my post in the context of the post being responded to.

As to the "big" difference between being dismissed with cause or without cause ( fired doesn't mean anything ). The nature of his job wouldn't suggest a big severance package. Maybe you guys are more than a little sue happy.

Besides. at the end of the day. I think its rather ironic that he didn't learn the exact lesson taught by the Amanada Todd story, which is that you shouldn't post things you don't want public on facebook. Then he does and posts that on her memorial page. Not to say he did or didn't deserve it. I don't really have a position on the matter.
 
OpenGambit said:
my response was directly to the people who suggested that it was a free speech / Charter issue. Kindly read my post in the context of the post being responded to.

As to the "big" difference between being dismissed with cause or without cause ( fired doesn't mean anything ). The nature of his job wouldn't suggest a big severance package. Maybe you guys are more than a little sue happy.

Besides. at the end of the day. I think its rather ironic that he didn't learn the exact lesson taught by the Amanada Todd story, which is that you shouldn't post things you don't want public on facebook. Then he does and posts that on her memorial page. Not to say he did or didn't deserve it. I don't really have a position on the matter.
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I wasn't arguing with you. I was just trying to clarify something. I believe being dismissed without cause relates to free speech charter issue. Saying something the employee doesn't like should't be a cause for dismissal. The way the media worded it makes it seem otherwise.
 
What it boils down to is this:

"Our company ethics are based on tolerance, respect and fair and honourable treatment of all individuals, internally, with our customers and the population as a whole," he said.
"We have zero tolerance for the mistreatment of others no matter what form it takes."

Moron obviously had his FB set to public and he made an *** of himself which reflects on the company (whether you agree or not - that is the principle). Many companies have policies like this and if you call attention to yourself in a negative manner as this man did - you could be fired.


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daught said:
I believe being dismissed without cause relates to free speech charter issue.
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As previously stated. the Charter does not apply to interactions between indivduals unless they are agents of the state ( generally speaking ). Simply put, you are incorrect.

And again as previously stated, dismissal without cause can be done at any time for any reason without issue provided that severance is paid.
 
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Nyx13 said:
What it boils down to is this:

"Our company ethics are based on tolerance, respect and fair and honourable treatment of all individuals, internally, with our customers and the population as a whole," he said.
"We have zero tolerance for the mistreatment of others no matter what form it takes."

Moron obviously had his FB set to public and he made an *** of himself which reflects on the company (whether you agree or not - that is the principle). Many companies have policies like this and if you call attention to yourself in a negative manner as this man did - you could be fired.
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As I understood it, the comment wasn't made on his own page, rather, it was made on Amanda Todd's memorial page. That is a distinction with a difference. for example, this comment would seem to be incorrect - "I doubt his comments would have reached anyone who would've been hurt by them"
 
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