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Three thoughts
1. I don't think the guys comment was tasteful but he should not have been fired, trolls are trolls.

2. Why parents don't put the computers in the family room or busy room of the house is beyond me.

3. The whole thing is still pretty sad.


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WOW PEOPLE....... so lets say i crash my bike and die.... Its Ok to Post On GTA or Facebook or ????

"" Glad Rich6969 is dead?".....
 
dasiffy said:
kodos to the probable b¡tch with nothing better to do, for making this guy's opinions public.
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Not really. The guy who got fired went to a memorial page for Amanda Todd and wrote: “Thank God this b---- is dead”, so he made his opinions public himself (Source: Interview of the guy with the Toronto Star). It could be argued that his employeer would have noticed sooner or later, one way or another.

I am not familiar with the story of Amanda Todd, so I will not comment on rights or wrongs about it. But this is interesting to me because is another example that the internet is moving from a pure digital playground to a more phisycal realm, where policing and enforcement and consecuences exist.
 
i didn't mean "public" -> anyone who goes to that page can read it.

I meant "public" -> i heard about it by not going to that page.


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there is an illusion of privacy when posting on the internet. You only assume a small group of people will look at your FB page. friends family etc. It's easy to forget that anyone can read what you write. That illusion tends to let politicaly correctness go out the door.
 
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CruisnGrrl said:
if this woman didn't want to get anyone fired why did she contact the employer?
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if i owned a business and i had employees like him/her saying "“Thank God this b---- is dead”.. i would be thankful she did email me....
 
bunmanchi said:
Im just going to use this as an example, and we'll see how it goes, ok ?

I did a quick search, and found this..

for arguments sake, lets say i disagree with you. I do a a few google searches, and find out your real name. then i find you on fb, or some other media site. it lists where you work, i contact them, and tell them your politcal views, to which they strongly disagree with. next thing, you get fired for something.

thats fair ? remember, dont say apples and oranges here, the principal is the same. now think if someone did an actual hardcore search on you, and your habits on the internet. what you watch , what you read....etc should your work be told all of this ?
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Bunmanchi, I like your argument, but you just made my point for me.

Those are my opinions of the McGuinty government and the man. In fact, I outline some of my reasons for feeling that way. But here's the most important part... I don't say anything on the internet that I would not like my family, friends or employer to read.

That's just common sense.
 
rich6969 said:
if i owned a business and i had employees like him/her saying "“Thank God this b---- is dead”.. i would be thankful she did email me....
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but lots of people dont talk at work, like they do in their private lives

i highly doubt your attitudes and comments you say on GTAM are how you act at work

look at your avatar. you are either peeing in public, or pretending to masturbate outdoors.
if there was a school nearly, you would be arrested for exposing yourself, and deemed a sexual offender.

man, that would ruin your life if your employer thought that, eh ?
 
bunmanchi said:
but lots of people dont talk at work, like they do in their private lives

i highly doubt your attitudes and comments you say on GTAM are how you act at work

look at your avatar. you are either peeing in public, or pretending to masturbate outdoors.
if there was a school nearly, you would be arrested for exposing yourself, and deemed a sexual offender.

man, that would ruin your life if your employer thought that, eh ?
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That picture is innocent.... I am not naked nor does my profile wish you death or say anything bad about my work place...i work in a office and dress the part so what?
 
This makes me LAUGH! poor guy...

I don't understand why everyone is ******** their pants over this chick, you are probably the same tools who tried to make Kony famous, do us all a favour and imply some critical thinking when you brows social media sites.

Some coward teen from a first world country committed suicide because her social life was ruined, while there's millions of teens living in poverty and other unspeakable conditions, give me a ****ing break.

You guys going to try and get me fired?
 
The now fired dumbass worked for Garvey Big & Tall shops, they sell better quality dress wear to grownups and business guys that probably would agree with senior management that he portrayed the company in a bad light.
Now they get National exposure and media mentions that would have cost hundreds of thousands.
They look like good guys and have a positive perception with their target market. Two birds with one stone.
 
rich6969 said:
if i owned a business and i had employees like him/her saying "“Thank God this b---- is dead”.. i would be thankful she did email me....
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What about if they said it in a bar after work? What about a private dinner party?

Unless this guys employer has a very clear and detailed code of conduct then he should be collecting a nice cheque (less 10%) from them some day soon.
 
wormburner said:
Bunmanchi, I like your argument, but you just made my point for me.

Those are my opinions of the McGuinty government and the man. In fact, I outline some of my reasons for feeling that way. But here's the most important part... I don't say anything on the internet that I would not like my family, friends or employer to read.

That's just common sense.
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That's the way I conduct myself in the online world.

There is one main lesson to be learned from this fiasco: once you put something out there on the internet, you lose control over it. It happened when this naive girl posted pictures of herself, and it happened when this guy posted a controversial comment. There can be very real consequences to what one does in the online world. Posting something on the net is *not* the same thing as a private conversation in a bar with your best buddies.

If you want the freedom to act like a d-bag online, DON'T use your real name (i.e. Facebook) and DON'T connect yourself in any way to employer, or any other groups you may be affiliated with.
 
I think there is a distinction to be made between posting comments on a forum like GTAM where your identity is for the most part anonymous and there can be a reasonable expectation of anonymity, and posting comments on Facebook. Facebook as a medium is one that is directly linked to your true identity, the expectation of privacy is different from that of a forum where you are using a handle to post anonymously. I think it's pretty apparent that facebook is not a medium where you can expect to say whatever you want and not face any repercussion for your opinions or behavior in real life. He was foolish for thinking otherwise and in my opinion especially where his employment information is clearly posted on his page. His firing is not only a consequence of what he said but his choice to expose his personal identity and employment details on facebook.
 
Fiery254 said:
What about if they said it in a bar after work? What about a private dinner party?

Unless this guys employer has a very clear and detailed code of conduct then he should be collecting a nice cheque (less 10%) from them some day soon.
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That's just it he didn't and posted online...
 
dasiffy said:
so what do yo mean... anything goes between two people?
- never mind read your edit
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I am not saying anything goes I just said the Charter doesn't apply. What I am saying is that this is not a constitutional free speech case.
 
short stop said:
That's the way I conduct myself in the online world.

There is one main lesson to be learned from this fiasco: once you put something out there on the internet, you lose control over it. It happened when this naive girl posted pictures of herself, and it happened when this guy posted a controversial comment. There can be very real consequences to what one does in the online world. Posting something on the net is *not* the same thing as a private conversation in a bar with your best buddies.

If you want the freedom to act like a d-bag online, DON'T use your real name (i.e. Facebook) and DON'T connect yourself in any way to employer, or any other groups you may be affiliated with.
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agree 100%
 
AngelEyez said:
I think there is a distinction to be made between posting comments on a forum like GTAM where your identity is for the most part anonymous and there can be a reasonable expectation of anonymity, and posting comments on Facebook. Facebook as a medium is one that is directly linked to your true identity, the expectation of privacy is different from that of a forum where you are using a handle to post anonymously. I think it's pretty apparent that facebook is not a medium where you can expect to say whatever you want and not face any repercussion for your opinions or behavior in real life. He was foolish for thinking otherwise and in my opinion especially where his employment information is clearly posted on his page. His firing is not only a consequence of what he said but his choice to expose his personal identity and employment details on facebook.
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GTAM is about as not-anonymous as an internet forum can be. Since it's a local forum and there are plenty of meets, rides, track days, etc. People pretty much know who you are. Even I, someone who pretty much never does group rides, have met numerous people from this forum in person.
 
When you decide to meet people or go to meets, you've made an active decision to relinquish your anonymity. Some people do it by attending the meets or posting information about their identity, or their profession, or other personal details, and others don't. Even by attending meets, the only way your identity is matched to your handle is if you tell people what your handle is. Pegasus is a perfect example of someone who has apparently attended group rides and yet it seems, managed to maintain his posting anonymity.
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