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jc100 said:
I'm a little confused, there seems to be quite a few iptv add ons in Kodi right? FilmOn etc. I watch live BBC news all the time. What's the advantage of a paid iptv service? Higher quality streams? Do you have to have a separate box for the paid service or can you enable it on an android Kodi box player?
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if you use IPTV they do all the work for you, more or less, you can have a separate box, and I believe you can use one of the boxes already available, you just point it to their servers...

if I am not mistaken, I don't know IPTV that well, yet...
 
GateKeeper said:
so pay 12 bucks for someone else to do all the work and ensure I get what I want, or pay nothing and I do the work....

Thanks for the education....

Cheers
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spot on - this is exactly right!

It's the same reason I listen to radio stations even though I have been downloading any music I desire since the early 90s. There's something about being lazy and wanting other people to deliver your content at times. I find something I like that I hadn't heard of before (either music or video) and yes, I'll torrent it going forward so i have easy access to 1080p or 4k content locally.

Don't get me wrong, I consider this a luxury service and it would be the first delivery method I cut if needed to; I use kodi/specto/genesis/torrents/etc primarily, but I consider it really nice to be able to watch live CNN/CP24/The Emmy's/Sport Events/etc in HD whenever I want for $8/month. It supplements my downloads.
 
Xhumeka said:
spot on - this is exactly right!

It's the same reason I listen to radio stations even though I have been downloading any music I desire since the early 90s. There's something about being lazy and wanting other people to deliver your content at times. I find something I like that I hadn't heard of before (either music or video) and yes, I'll torrent it going forward so i have easy access to 1080p or 4k content locally.

Don't get me wrong, I consider this a luxury service and it would be the first delivery method I cut if needed to; I use kodi/specto/genesis/torrents/etc primarily, but I consider it really nice to be able to watch live CNN/CP24/The Emmy's/Sport Events/etc in HD whenever I want for $8/month. It supplements my downloads.
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that's pretty good for $8 mth
I haven't tried those small indoor antennas.
If you have kids or elders around...you will have some sort of tv with antenna if/when internet is down

Is there no proper IPTV plugin for Kodi?
How are they getting access to CNN etc... but not available in Kodi?
 
-D- said:
Is there no proper IPTV plugin for Kodi?
How are they getting access to CNN etc... but not available in Kodi?
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I used Kodi (and previously XMBC) for quite awhile before subscribing to a grey market IPTV service; sure, you can get a lot (if not all) channels by playing around, updating links, etc. https://www.tvonlinestreams.com/ is a great resource for "hacked" tvip mp3u streams that generally work for a few hours before access is cut off. But I found even the most reliable free add-ons for news services were spotty at best. A US CNN news feed turned out to be a UK CNN feed, and what worked yesterday isn't working today. When you subscribe to a grey market (ok fine, illegal) iptv service you can be 99 percent sure that when you want to watch CNN, you can watch CNN.

If I wasn't using IPTV, I'd rely a lot on acestreams for live tv... that is pretty cool!!! It's like torrents for live tv; you contribute to a swarm. But the streams are very high quality and reliable... I still watch UFC and other sports events on good quality acestreams!!
 
CruisnGrrl said:
Been thinking of swapping from kodi with libreelec to either Linux or android with plex. Have a few friends that run plex servers.
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Plex is a solid solution. Been running it for a while now, really is nice.
 
-D- said:
isn't Plex for your personal media or does it stream like Kodi also?
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Streams personal media. Think of it like a private Netflix.
 
nfq said:
Streams personal media. Think of it like a private Netflix.
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yes, that's what I thought and said
you can configure Kodi to stream your personal media also plus I saw some sort of Plex player as a Kodi add on.
 
-D- said:
yes, that's what I thought and said
you can configure Kodi to stream your personal media also plus I saw some sort of Plex player as a Kodi add on.
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Kodi is designed to be your personal media centre. There is a plex add on.
 
I work in Media and Entertainment. You do realise that this is theft, right?

Although on judgement day I don't believe peoples viewing habits will be called into question :)
 
Delboy said:
I work in Media and Entertainment. You do realise that this is theft, right?

Although on judgement day I don't believe peoples viewing habits will be called into question :)
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Streaming is not illegal and after all the stuff I have done this is my last worry in judgement day :(
 
ZX600 said:
Streaming is not illegal and after all the stuff I have done this is my last worry in judgement day :(
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Au Contraire. Legacy technologies like Adobe RTMP and RTSP streams are not illegal and not covered by the Canadian Copyright Act, its a real video stream.

"Streaming" to an Android box, or iOS device is illegal. This is because its not a stream. its a series of small files, normal around 6 to 10 seconds in length that are "downloaded" using HTTP and stitched together in the player. Canada's Copyright Act prohibits unauthorised "downloading" of copyrighted content. Just because its un-enforced does not mean that its not illegal.

The days of, at least live, piracy are pretty much numbered. We are doing some trials with Cisco and FriendMTS and they have some promising technology. The first practical applications will be with F1. Cool Technology, and its Canadian, originally developed by a small company in Mississauga. Ericsson, Nokia and Akamai have similar solutions.

http://blogs.cisco.com/sp/a-new-paradigm-for-dealing-with-illegal-redistribution-of-content
 
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Delboy said:
Au Contraire. Legacy technologies like Adobe RTMP and RTSP streams are not illegal and not covered by the Canadian Copyright Act, its a real video stream.

"Streaming" to an Android box, or iOS device is illegal. This is because its not a stream. its a series of small files, normal around 6 to 10 seconds in length that are "downloaded" using HTTP and stitched together in the player. Canada's Copyright Act prohibits unauthorised "downloading" of copyrighted content. Just because its un-enforced does not mean that its not illegal.

The days of, at least live, piracy are pretty much numbered. We are doing some trials with Cisco and FriendMTS and they have some promising technology. The first practical applications will be with F1. Cool Technology, and its Canadian, originally developed by a small company in Mississauga. Ericsson, Nokia and Akamai have similar solutions.

http://blogs.cisco.com/sp/a-new-paradigm-for-dealing-with-illegal-redistribution-of-content
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Maybe if the likes of Bell and Rogers, and the rest didn't gouge us with monthly bills of 200 bucks and more for a hand full of decent TV to watch, I bet there would be less of this "Streaming" going on.....

Just last night, well just about any night, I hit the guide button, and on 5 channels I could watch the same episode of "The Big Bang Theory" really.......I pay 200 bucks a month so I can watch the same friggen show on 5 different channels, give me a break.....

Rogers, Bell and the likes are the real crooks.........

What I find funny is you have a hand full of companies trying to stop this, with a handful of staff on hand to make this happen, but fortunately, there are hundreds and hundreds of hackers around the world that will break you walls down and get the content back to the people....

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Delboy said:
Au Contraire. Legacy technologies like Adobe RTMP and RTSP streams are not illegal and not covered by the Canadian Copyright Act, its a real video stream.

"Streaming" to an Android box, or iOS device is illegal. This is because its not a stream. its a series of small files, normal around 6 to 10 seconds in length that are "downloaded" using HTTP and stitched together in the player. Canada's Copyright Act prohibits unauthorised "downloading" of copyrighted content. Just because its un-enforced does not mean that its not illegal.

The days of, at least live, piracy are pretty much numbered. We are doing some trials with Cisco and FriendMTS and they have some promising technology. The first practical applications will be with F1. Cool Technology, and its Canadian, originally developed by a small company in Mississauga. Ericsson, Nokia and Akamai have similar solutions.

http://blogs.cisco.com/sp/a-new-paradigm-for-dealing-with-illegal-redistribution-of-content
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And how did it work out for the music industry with music sales when they TAUGHT EVERYONE what Napster and Mp3's are.
They killed Napster and Spawned HUNDREDS/THOUSANDS of other sources.

They will now spend MILLIONS$$$$ to try to block the small % of Kodi type users and in turn create another Napster effect.
go for it...you will just force them to create a much better Kodi.
 
Delboy said:
I work in Media and Entertainment. You do realise that this is theft, right?

Although on judgement day I don't believe peoples viewing habits will be called into question :)
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So when the Music Industry was convicted of price fixing cd prices in North America (or global) and paid a fine...uhm don't recall any of that money coming back to me/us.
After all we bought those cd's so why didn't we get back the $$$.
 
Theft is what is charged by the triopoly for shoddy content.

Next you're going to tell me that descrambling the American satellite tv signals is theft too. You know, the signals that are broadcast into our homes but are illegal to pay to subscribe to.

Theft would be taking something from someone depriving them of that said good. If I took the hard drive that the original content was on depriving you of selling that content to someone else then that is theft, if I copy the content to watch on my own you've hardly been deprived of anything.
 
Delboy said:
The days of, at least live, piracy are pretty much numbered.
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You might be right - but they've been saying this since 79 when cband home-based satellite dishes started to become popular (and even before that when pirate cable boxes first appeared). One distribution method might get shut down, another will spring right back up. Remember the wave of FTA shutdowns that took place only a decade ago? Sure, that shut down the ease of pirating live satellite tv, but it didn't stop it. That's why people have moved to streaming addons and IPTV for now, cause it's so easy at the moment. If Cisco or someone else implements something like that (they are testing something like that in Europe right now aren't they?) the masses will slowly switch to some other method.

All it would take to stop/end piracy is to provide FAIR PRICING to consumers; the mass of pirates would move to legal paid subscriptions, like people have been saying forever.

Al Gore in 1988 (when they first started seriously trying to scramble signals) talking about satellite piracy and "the evil cable companies" and the need for fair pricing for programming:

[video=youtube;jCzqybLOHes]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzqybLOHes[/video]
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