I am very curious in seeing what businesses are going to do with Windows. I'm pretty sure my employer is not likely going to go beyond Win7 for quite a while.
Windows 8 anyone?
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Shaman
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I'm thinking the person who thinks Windows 8 is faster - despite objective testing that it definitely is not - doesn't understand what the word "objective" means.
Let me help you:
Objectivity is a central philosophical concept which has been variously defined by sources. A proposition is generally considered to be objectively true when its truth conditions are met and are "mind-independent"—that is, existing freely or independently from the thoughts of a conscious entity or subject. In a simpler form, Objectivity is the ability to judge fairly.
What you are saying is Subjective. In other words, your opinion, which has been extensively tested by numerous agencies - and is proven wrong. Windows 8 is not faster.
The play is over, the actors have left the stage. Close curtain.
Let me help you:
Objectivity is a central philosophical concept which has been variously defined by sources. A proposition is generally considered to be objectively true when its truth conditions are met and are "mind-independent"—that is, existing freely or independently from the thoughts of a conscious entity or subject. In a simpler form, Objectivity is the ability to judge fairly.
What you are saying is Subjective. In other words, your opinion, which has been extensively tested by numerous agencies - and is proven wrong. Windows 8 is not faster.
The play is over, the actors have left the stage. Close curtain.
Why do you take "crap" so seriously? :wav::wav:
The tile interface is supposed to be able to be bypassed by a windows registers hack but often that hoses the system requiring a full nuke and pave
Shaman
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Yeah, my super gadget-loving geek has had it since the days of the preview. The preview could be easily locked to the Windows interface, but Microsoft has too much stuff to try and sell you, so doing it now... well, he hasn't made it work yet, and this guy has some pretty amazing things in his gadget/hack collection. Built his own PVR with bluetooth control, for example.
The reason I take things seriously is that you're trying to tell people that Windows 8 is faster and I dunno... easier? Better? to use than Windows 7. But it is neither. It's a mess to use - it has at least three different UIs in one operating system, with different dialogue boxes and interfaces... two of which it forces you to use, to launch the other UIs. I can't remember a time since the 1980s when such a stupid decision was made by a major software house. It'd be like selling you a car with two sets of controls, which you had to switch between in order to access certain features of the car... and a third set of knobs with different labelling that you had to use in order to operate the electronics - on an irregular basis.
It's ridiculous. And it's definitely not *objectively* faster. So telling people to spend their money on something that they're likely to be disappointed in ... that's on you, not me...
The fact that you have to pay for a media player to play back DVD (not bluray) is also an annoyance. You also have to have the professional version of windows to install the media pack. Nickels and dimes....
I disagree. The future of computing will see a collision between mobile devices and home systems. Basically, your phone will become your PC. It will connect wirelessly to dumb terminals that consist of a screen (monitor or TV, also losing their differentiation), and a keyboard/mouse. Storage will be on the cloud, or local networks. If this is the same vision that MS sees for computing, then a unified OS is indispensable. Yes, Win 8 has serious flaws but it is a necessary step in the right direction IMO.
See my response above. The cloud will play a big role in the future of computing, whether MS wishes it or not. But the cloud will never be a prerequisite to use a PC. Local, removable, and network storage will always be available for those who want it.
Shaman
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"The Cloud" is a completely vacuous term (tee hee). Which cloud would sir like? The "local cloud"? The "storage cloud"? The "applications cloud"? The "virtualized cloud"? The "shared hosting cloud"? The "message cloud"?
Sure, i can see a segment of the market going to "cloud" but what is cloud anyways? I have my SIII phone that backs itself up over wifi to my PC using Samsung Kies. Is that cloud? Do I need Windows 8 / Server to do it? You tell me. I can tell you, I won't EVER switch to Windows 8, so you can make an inference....
Oh, also: people that use buzzword phrases like "the cloud" or "data intelligence" can shampoo my crotch.
Sure, i can see a segment of the market going to "cloud" but what is cloud anyways? I have my SIII phone that backs itself up over wifi to my PC using Samsung Kies. Is that cloud? Do I need Windows 8 / Server to do it? You tell me. I can tell you, I won't EVER switch to Windows 8, so you can make an inference....
Oh, also: people that use buzzword phrases like "the cloud" or "data intelligence" can shampoo my crotch.
AFAIK, it refers to data storage and software accessibility over the internet. I didn't think there was any confusion with the term.
If marketing uses "cloud computing" in a sentence it is impossible to have any idea what the hell they're talking about.
Shaman
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All my buddies in IT say that their firms are holding onto XP until Microsoft won't support it anymore. Then they'll phase in Win7. I'd be interested to hear from the corporate types on here what their companies/firms use.
Not corporate, but education. We kept to WinXP through Vista, for the most part, as Vista didn't work with a bunch of our necessary legacy software. We have largely moved to Win7 at this point, since there really wasn't much choice in the matter. My first take on Win8 is that we won't be adopting it anytime soon.
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eastcoast: Oh, that is so frickin' spot on. I just went through this with a client... "but you're on the cloud already, you have 25 firewalls on your wide area network and a failover cluster for Exchange that is connected to the Internet at your resource center..."
Conversation over, handshakes and smiles all around. They were 100% cloud and didn't know it!
Conversation over, handshakes and smiles all around. They were 100% cloud and didn't know it!
We just switched from xp to 7 note the lack of vista
... because someone invented a buzzword to describe something that already existed, as a marketing tool. As a friend recently commented to me, the guy who did that should never have to work again.
I'm in Municipal Gov., and we're running 2 wastewater treatment plants on Win 2K and XP, with all office computers on XP...
RBC,
Win XP
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