Shaman
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I can confirm that it's not an upgrade.
Windows 8 anyone?
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I can confirm that it's not an upgrade.
Agreed.
Chris Pirillo (lockergnome) offers an interesting observation. Windows 8 is a product of Microsoft's thinking that a weakness of the Apple product strategy is that iOS and OSX are two separate products (even though they are well integrated). I think that Microsoft believes that they can leapfrog Apple by jamming two things together: a touch device OS and a PC OS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsZVBY4yj4Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=QbjnbhWVN8c
Though, as with the release of Win7 after Vista, you could consider it the debugged version of the previous OS.
debugged version of windows phone 7 yes.
Mistake. Buggy as hell.
Again, set it to the classic interface and you're golden.
*EDIT* For "Classic" Win8 see: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33642_...the-classic-start-menu-back-in-windows-8-rtm/
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Its $40 right here.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_DIS_ShopHP_FPP_Light
Its not really an upgrade, i test bought a key from an UNACTIVATED Windows 7 and it worked just fine... Got key in my email within minutes.
And Windows 8 is great, i hated it at first but you get use to it very quickly.
wonderings
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That is what Win 8 should have built in, not needing to download apps from other developers to get a simple layout back. Microsoft should have a simple control panel to change from classic to tiles.
I will be staying away from Win 8, not that I really need it I run 99% mac at work and home. Win 7 was/is a great OS and no need to relearn anything. I know with the Win 8 developer preview, I had to google search how to shut the machine down. Was not impressed that little things were that hard to find.
No, it shouldn't be needed. Initially that was going to be built in, but they removed it. You can bet that if there are enough people using it via an aftermarket app. though, then Microsoft will add it in a Service Pack.
Other than that just boot up, then click on the Desktop tile in the bottom left corner.
wonderings
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With a complete and major OS change like this, I think there should be a choice. It will also help people migrate over as there is that safety net of "classic view" if they get frustrated with the new layout. They can also learn as they go without feeling forced to learn it all to use it from the get go.
I agree. So did Microsoft, in the Beta versions that I've played with. The RC and final versions? Not so much, apparently.
Windows 8 has some souped up subsystems, like the graphics API, slightly better SSD support, better thread scheduling. Not nearly enough for me to look past the user interface. I used the Consumer Preview for a long time (to learn how to support it eventually) but it drove me crazy. I'm good for Windows 7 licenses for now.
I got a new lenovo thinkpad yesterday from the IT guy, I asked what? no windows8? He replied reconfiguring all our corporate stuff to work and redirecting outlook so it works in and out of the office off server/on server is more time than he needs for a system that may not be around long before its re-branded. 7 is just fine for the world according to him, if it was revolutionary it wouldn't be a $25 dollar upgrade.
It's all about what folks are used to... Sometimes a break from the past is what is required to make real progress and Windows 8 is the only real attempt at it from a desktop PC perspective... Will it work... who knows.
The tile interface is the first one that, if it can't be bypassed, might actually ultimately push me to Apple.
If you're willing to learn a few new keystrokes windows 8 is a great change from 7.
For anyone interested in a $15 upgrade from Win7 to 8 here you go https://windowsupgradeoffer.com/
Just lie and say you bought your computer recently and they dont check into any of the details, even if the current version of Win7 your're using isnt "legit" it still works. Only thing is that if you are on 32bit and want to go to 64bit (as I wanted to) the download they give you is for the same version you already have so you cant go from 32bit to 64bit unless you download the disk image from another source.
The key they give you is also for the "Pro" version and doesnt work on other versions, I cant confirm if the key works on different "bit" versions.
For anyone interested in a $15 upgrade from Win7 to 8 here you go https://windowsupgradeoffer.com/
Just lie and say you bought your computer recently and they dont check into any of the details, even if the current version of Win7 your're using isnt "legit" it still works. Only thing is that if you are on 32bit and want to go to 64bit (as I wanted to) the download they give you is for the same version you already have so you cant go from 32bit to 64bit unless you download the disk image from another source.
The key they give you is also for the "Pro" version and doesnt work on other versions, I cant confirm if the key works on different "bit" versions.
Shaman
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It's not a great change. It's crap. It's spectacularly bad crap.
It's pushing clients directly at the "cloud" where Microsoft intends to make a boatload of money off you. Read: it'll cost you more over time if you follow their way of thinking, and they're going to do their best to force you into their way of thinking.
It offers virtually nothing to 99% of the current Windows users, and the 1% remaining is only of use to large enterprises that won't use it anyways because of all the downfalls, costs and failures of Windows 8 as well as its similarly hobbled server OS. Those companies are mostly still using Windows XP and Server 2008. Windows is a dinosaur, folks, and with Windows 8 it is about to become a fossil.
Don't "upgrade" unless all you want to do is play with something different. It's not better. It doesn't offer you something you don't currently have. It's going to make you cry.
Seriously. If you're not a *total* gadget geek, you will hate this POS.
It's pushing clients directly at the "cloud" where Microsoft intends to make a boatload of money off you. Read: it'll cost you more over time if you follow their way of thinking, and they're going to do their best to force you into their way of thinking.
It offers virtually nothing to 99% of the current Windows users, and the 1% remaining is only of use to large enterprises that won't use it anyways because of all the downfalls, costs and failures of Windows 8 as well as its similarly hobbled server OS. Those companies are mostly still using Windows XP and Server 2008. Windows is a dinosaur, folks, and with Windows 8 it is about to become a fossil.
Don't "upgrade" unless all you want to do is play with something different. It's not better. It doesn't offer you something you don't currently have. It's going to make you cry.
Seriously. If you're not a *total* gadget geek, you will hate this POS.
The improvement in speed is already worth it for me. And what "cloud" are you talking about? They're not forcing you to use skydrive or anything really. And how does it cost more over time? I paid a flat rate to get a product code and thats the end of that...
